Weeding out obsolete modules and Demos
Folks, how about going over the various demos, and see which ones have really lost their usefulness? I happened to come across Demo/sgi/audio (works only on SGI 4D/35 machines, which went out of production about 12 years ago), sv and video (works on Indigo's with the Starter Video board, last seen about 8 years ago). And there's the svmodule.c (yup, same board). There are probably Indigo's still alive (4D35's? I doubt it, I can still remember the noise it made:-), but I wonder whether anyone in their right mind is still using the SV board. The forms/fl stuff still technically works on newer SGI's, but we might also wonder how useful they still are. And this is for SGI only, there's probably a lot more dead wood out there, -- - Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen@oratrix.com> http://www.cwi.nl/~jack - - If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman -
how about going over the various demos, and see which ones have really lost their usefulness?
Yeah!
I happened to come across Demo/sgi/audio (works only on SGI 4D/35 machines, which went out of production about 12 years ago), sv and video (works on Indigo's with the Starter Video board, last seen about 8 years ago). And there's the svmodule.c (yup, same board). There are probably Indigo's still alive (4D35's? I doubt it, I can still remember the noise it made:-), but I wonder whether anyone in their right mind is still using the SV board.
The forms/fl stuff still technically works on newer SGI's, but we might also wonder how useful they still are.
And this is for SGI only, there's probably a lot more dead wood out there,
I haven't seen or heard an SGI machine for years. If you think those SGI demos have lost their usefulness, please use your CVS powers to delete them! --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
I haven't seen or heard an SGI machine for years. If you think those SGI demos have lost their usefulness, please use your CVS powers to delete them!
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
Um... maybe just move them to the not-shipped side of things at first in case there are hold-outs out there still clinging to their stone axes? ;) Dave LeBlanc Seattle, WA USA
I would not be opposed to deleting the whole Demo/sgi tree. I don't have an SGI workstation anymore, but I did have an SGI O2 until recently. I think the audio (and al) stuff and the gl stuff probably still work (I used mclock until recently). I think we can definitely get rid of the video directory (CMIF video format, remember that?). I'm not sure whether sv still compiles on modern SGI's. The cd module also still works. Having said this, I'm not sure there is still much value in keeping the demos. The modules in the Modules directory is another matter. Until recently I have used cd and al. I think cl might still work, but I'm not sure. I don't think sv works on anything other than Indigo's with a Starter Video board. gl (and I think also fm) still works. sgi also still works, but I'm not sure how useful it still is. It just defines functions nap and _getpty. rgbimg is for reading SGI RGB images, but is portable. Although one must ask whether it has a place in the standard library, since there is no similar level of support for more popular image formats. On Tue, Sep 10 2002 Guido van Rossum wrote:
how about going over the various demos, and see which ones have really lost their usefulness?
Yeah!
I happened to come across Demo/sgi/audio (works only on SGI 4D/35 machines, which went out of production about 12 years ago), sv and video (works on Indigo's with the Starter Video board, last seen about 8 years ago). And there's the svmodule.c (yup, same board). There are probably Indigo's still alive (4D35's? I doubt it, I can still remember the noise it made:-), but I wonder whether anyone in their right mind is still using the SV board.
The forms/fl stuff still technically works on newer SGI's, but we might also wonder how useful they still are.
And this is for SGI only, there's probably a lot more dead wood out there,
I haven't seen or heard an SGI machine for years. If you think those SGI demos have lost their usefulness, please use your CVS powers to delete them!
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
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I would not be opposed to deleting the whole Demo/sgi tree.
OK, I've done this. I've saved a private copy of the mclock code for nostalgic purposes; I may yet rewrite using Tkinter. :-)
I don't have an SGI workstation anymore, but I did have an SGI O2 until recently. I think the audio (and al) stuff and the gl stuff probably still work (I used mclock until recently). I think we can definitely get rid of the video directory (CMIF video format, remember that?). I'm not sure whether sv still compiles on modern SGI's. The cd module also still works.
Having said this, I'm not sure there is still much value in keeping the demos. The modules in the Modules directory is another matter. Until recently I have used cd and al. I think cl might still work, but I'm not sure. I don't think sv works on anything other than Indigo's with a Starter Video board. gl (and I think also fm) still works. sgi also still works, but I'm not sure how useful it still is. It just defines functions nap and _getpty. rgbimg is for reading SGI RGB images, but is portable. Although one must ask whether it has a place in the standard library, since there is no similar level of support for more popular image formats.
OK, I won't touch the SGI specific code in Lib and Modules. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
participants (4)
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David LeBlanc
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Guido van Rossum
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Jack Jansen
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Sjoerd Mullender