Re: [Python-Dev] Unladen-Swallow: A faster python
Mark Hammond wrote:
On 28/03/2009 9:50 PM, andrew cooke wrote:
Tim Roberts wrote:
[...] IronPython has certainly shown that Python can be successfully implemented in a JIT compiled VM in a performant way, but it has issues running C extension modules.
I'll be curious to see where this project goes.
given the comments on python-dev i wonder if this is the first indication that python is going to split into separate implementations for windows and unix (via .net and llvm, respectively)?
What comments are they? There is no indication that unladen-swallow is fundamentally broken for Windows, just temporarily broken due to the lack of windows developers/contributors...
the comments you are referring to - that windows is not a priority, that they currently have no testing on windows machines, etc. i quote, for example: "None of the three of us have Windows machines, nor do we particularly want to acquire them :), and Windows support isn't going to be a big priority."
Saying-no-to-fud ly,
which part of "i wonder" don't you understand? i'm not saying it is true, i'm just discussing the possibility. i am getting a little tired of people here acting so defensively... i'm discussing a programming language, not the size of your dick.
andrew
On 29/03/2009 1:41 AM, andrew cooke wrote:
Mark Hammond wrote:
On 28/03/2009 9:50 PM, andrew cooke wrote:
Tim Roberts wrote:
[...] IronPython has certainly shown that Python can be successfully implemented in a JIT compiled VM in a performant way, but it has issues running C extension modules.
I'll be curious to see where this project goes.
given the comments on python-dev i wonder if this is the first indication that python is going to split into separate implementations for windows and unix (via .net and llvm, respectively)?
What comments are they? There is no indication that unladen-swallow is fundamentally broken for Windows, just temporarily broken due to the lack of windows developers/contributors...
the comments you are referring to - that windows is not a priority, that they currently have no testing on windows machines, etc. i quote, for example: "None of the three of us have Windows machines, nor do we particularly want to acquire them :), and Windows support isn't going to be a big priority."
Saying-no-to-fud ly,
which part of "i wonder" don't you understand? i'm not saying it is true, i'm just discussing the possibility.
Fair enough - although its reasonable for people to look for some indication of what you are saying to have some basis in reality, surely?
i am getting a little tired of people here acting so defensively...
Which part of my reply did you think was defensive? I wasn't suggesting such a split would necessarily be a bad idea, just that there was no evidence of it. IMO discussing such a split would create a huge amount of FUD, generating a huge amount of wasted energy if it wasn't true.
i'm discussing a programming language, not the size of your dick.
Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions :) Is there something you feel the need to get off your chest?
Mark
Mark Hammond wrote: [...I wrote]
i'm discussing a programming language, not the size of your dick.
Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions :) Is there something you feel the need to get off your chest?
i'm not sure how this has ended up in python-dev; i was responding in python and if you read that group my comments may have made a little more sense (there were some hysterics in a separate thread accusing me of saying python was "dying" because i was concerned about how the discussion groups had evolved).
anyway, that had nothing to do with you and i am sorry i responded like that.
andrew
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009, andrew cooke wrote:
Mark Hammond wrote: [...I wrote]
i'm discussing a programming language, not the size of your dick.
Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions :) Is there something you feel the need to get off your chest?
i'm not sure how this has ended up in python-dev; i was responding in python and if you read that group my comments may have made a little more sense (there were some hysterics in a separate thread accusing me of saying python was "dying" because i was concerned about how the discussion groups had evolved).
There certainly was no such accusation. You said that c.l.py was in "decline" (your own word), and I made reference to the ancient "Usenet is dead, news at 11" meme.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/0b3fbfcdb92ae0e3
Mark's question seems pertinent. ;-)
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