Tracker marks my messages as spam :-)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This will be my last email today, I don't want to waste (more of) your *valuable* time. http://bugs.python.org/issue1391 http://bugs.python.org/msg61892 - -- Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ jcea@argo.es http://www.argo.es/~jcea/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ jabber / xmpp:jcea@jabber.org _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ ~ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBR6Gd25lgi5GaxT1NAQLDiwP/aMUOxhoRH8/ZnCtHCUzr95tIJUe1ySh6 SuDjR3OS19S8lcRVgEL0droIP44lmozpdyOW1eaPDPBMA02XCqiPWmCxBCeXsbJ/ xf/XVzl53vAQmtfqxHrNyrS+mXv5YW2CjOKWk52IKuf/Rckf9FYSP13OKW7WTjNy orjAdOYRd/8= =gSNB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Jesus Cea wrote:
I don't know what's going on there, but it appears to require higher permissions than mine to flag the message as miscategorised (I can read it when I'm logged in, but I don't see anything that would let me mark it as a legitimate message). Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.boredomandlaziness.org
This will be my last email today, I don't want to waste (more of) your *valuable* time.
http://bugs.python.org/issue1391 http://bugs.python.org/msg61892
It does that sometimes when the text is very short. The Bayesian filter needs more training, so just keep reporting messages as misclassified here. Georg has reclassified the message as ham now. Regards, Martin
Perhaps it has to do with the low signal to noise ratio of your messages... Nicko On 31 Jan 2008, at 10:07, Jesus Cea wrote:
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This will be my last email today, I don't want to waste (more of) your *valuable* time.
http://bugs.python.org/issue1391 http://bugs.python.org/msg61892
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Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
On Feb 1, 2008 6:43 AM, Nicko van Someren <nicko@nicko.org> wrote:
Perhaps it has to do with the low signal to noise ratio of your messages...
That was a little uncalled for. Be polite.
I don't believe it was at all impolite: It was a literal observation of a relevant phenomenon. Jesus's email that started this thread used 1305 characters to simply say "This will be my last email today, I don't want to waste (more of) your *valuable* time." a message of 89 characters. By anyone's standards that's a low S/N ratio. Even without the digital signature overhead it is still 89 characters from a total of 648 ... it's quite possible that's why his messages are being misinterpreted. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/
No. The message Jesus added to the tracer was, in its entirety: """ Oracle confirms the issue. They will provide a patch. """ That's just small, but has a high S/N ratio. The contents of Jesus' email has nothing to do with this issue. On Feb 1, 2008 10:37 AM, Steve Holden <steve@holdenweb.com> wrote:
Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
On Feb 1, 2008 6:43 AM, Nicko van Someren <nicko@nicko.org> wrote:
Perhaps it has to do with the low signal to noise ratio of your messages...
That was a little uncalled for. Be polite.
I don't believe it was at all impolite: It was a literal observation of a relevant phenomenon. Jesus's email that started this thread used 1305 characters to simply say
"This will be my last email today, I don't want to waste (more of) your *valuable* time."
a message of 89 characters. By anyone's standards that's a low S/N ratio. Even without the digital signature overhead it is still 89 characters from a total of 648 ... it's quite possible that's why his messages are being misinterpreted.
regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/
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Guido> """ Guido> Oracle confirms the issue. They will provide a patch. Guido> """ Guido> That's just small, but has a high S/N ratio. The contents of Jesus' Guido> email has nothing to do with this issue. As Martin pointed out, small messages tend to get classified as either spam or unsure. The spam filter built into the Roundup instance uses the SpamBayes classifier. I don't know how many examples have been trained so far, but I would guess very few. It's unlikely that the small message gave any useful clues (far enough away from a score of 0.5 in either the spam or ham directions) to the classifier. Maybe "Oracle" or "patch" would have been hammy clues. The others were probably tossed out. In short, there just wasn't enough "meat" to chew on. Of course, without seeing the classifier's database and input it's kind of hard to be more precise. Over time though, even such short messages should be classified more accurately as the training database grows. Skip
On 1 Feb 2008, at 18:37, Steve Holden wrote:
Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
On Feb 1, 2008 6:43 AM, Nicko van Someren <nicko@nicko.org> wrote:
Perhaps it has to do with the low signal to noise ratio of your messages...
That was a little uncalled for. Be polite.
I don't believe it was at all impolite: It was a literal observation of a relevant phenomenon. Jesus's email that started this thread used 1305 characters to simply say
"This will be my last email today, I don't want to waste (more of) your *valuable* time."
a message of 89 characters. By anyone's standards that's a low S/N ratio. Even without the digital signature overhead it is still 89 characters from a total of 648 ... it's quite possible that's why his messages are being misinterpreted.
Exactly. I by no means meant to suggest that the quality of the content was low, only that it was lost in a morass of padding which might confuse a spam filter. Sorry if my comment was misconstrued. Nicko
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