Folks, Apple "wisely" changed their uname version numbering scheme with a micro-release (10.1.1). Of course, nobody cares about this, except Python, which stuffs the version into sys.platform, from where it is used by a gazillion things. Anyway, where sys.platform used to be "darwin1" upto and including 10.1.0 it is now "darwin5" for 10.1.1 (and it will go up to "darwin6" for 10.2, etc). I am of a mind to take the "1" out of sys.platform, so that it becomes "darwin". Good idea or not? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen@oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/ ++++
Fine with me as long as it doesn't affect other platforms. :-) --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
Bad idea. Anybody comparing to "darwin1" will have to update the code. When they do so, they could just as well write sys.platform.startswith("darwin"). The same happens on Linux, which happens to be "linux2" since Linux kernel version 2.x is in use. That says little about the system, though, since glibc version or name of the distribution may be relevant. On OS X, it seems sys.platform could be used to distinguish minor differences. We should not take away that opportunity. Regards, Martin
"Martin v. Loewis" wrote:
Exactly and that's why I think that version numbers in sys.platform are plain wrong. There are better tools for finding out details about the system, e.g. platform.py which you can download from my Python pages.
On OS X, it seems sys.platform could be used to distinguish minor differences. We should not take away that opportunity.
As you already noted, the information given in the current version number is too inaccurate to be of any real value. Why not add platform.py to the std lib in Python 2.3 and remove all version info from sys.platform ?! -- Marc-Andre Lemburg CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH ______________________________________________________________________ Consulting & Company: http://www.egenix.com/ Python Software: http://www.lemburg.com/python/
On 05 December 2001, Jack Jansen said:
+1 from me. If we could turn the clock back 5 or 6 years, I would also do the same on Linux. Note that I share Marc-Andr�'s dim view of tacking the first digit of the kernel version number (or whatever) onto sys.platform -- the Distutils has Yet Another way of creating platform descriptions. It's more complex than sys.platform, but quite a lot less fancy than Marc-Andr�'s platform.py. See distutils.util.get_platform(), if you're curious. Greg -- Greg Ward - Linux weenie gward@python.net http://starship.python.net/~gward/ Never put off till tomorrow what you can put off till the day after tomorrow.
Fine with me as long as it doesn't affect other platforms. :-) --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
Bad idea. Anybody comparing to "darwin1" will have to update the code. When they do so, they could just as well write sys.platform.startswith("darwin"). The same happens on Linux, which happens to be "linux2" since Linux kernel version 2.x is in use. That says little about the system, though, since glibc version or name of the distribution may be relevant. On OS X, it seems sys.platform could be used to distinguish minor differences. We should not take away that opportunity. Regards, Martin
"Martin v. Loewis" wrote:
Exactly and that's why I think that version numbers in sys.platform are plain wrong. There are better tools for finding out details about the system, e.g. platform.py which you can download from my Python pages.
On OS X, it seems sys.platform could be used to distinguish minor differences. We should not take away that opportunity.
As you already noted, the information given in the current version number is too inaccurate to be of any real value. Why not add platform.py to the std lib in Python 2.3 and remove all version info from sys.platform ?! -- Marc-Andre Lemburg CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH ______________________________________________________________________ Consulting & Company: http://www.egenix.com/ Python Software: http://www.lemburg.com/python/
On 05 December 2001, Jack Jansen said:
+1 from me. If we could turn the clock back 5 or 6 years, I would also do the same on Linux. Note that I share Marc-Andr�'s dim view of tacking the first digit of the kernel version number (or whatever) onto sys.platform -- the Distutils has Yet Another way of creating platform descriptions. It's more complex than sys.platform, but quite a lot less fancy than Marc-Andr�'s platform.py. See distutils.util.get_platform(), if you're curious. Greg -- Greg Ward - Linux weenie gward@python.net http://starship.python.net/~gward/ Never put off till tomorrow what you can put off till the day after tomorrow.
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