I've finally come up with a patch I'm 90% happy with for this problem, got my iBook's modem talking to my ISP right and created a diff. Unfortunately, SF's tracker isn't behaving and I'm about to disappear from the internet for a day or so and 2.3a1 is due tomorrow, so it's here: http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/hacks/compiler-fixes-3.diff There's one outstanding problem with the compiler package to do with code of the form (unary operator)constant which is shown up by test_grammar, but that aside I can compile the test suite and the standard library using the patched compiler package and it runs fine. I'd really like to see this patch in 2.3a1. I'll fix the -literal thing for 2.3a2, but I bet noone notices it in the mean time :) Cheers, M. -- at any rate, I'm satisfied that not only do they know which end of the pointy thing to hold, but where to poke it for maximum effect. -- Eric The Read, asr, on google.com