There's a problem with the instructions for using Active TCL with Python for the Mac. Michael Begin forwarded message:

From: "Dr. Anthony G. Francis, Jr." Subject: Broken links on http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/#activetcl-8-5-11 Date: 19 December 2012 22:08:02 GMT To: webmaster@python.org

Hey gang,

The Python install instructions for Tck/TK appear to be out of date:

http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/#activetcl-8-5-11 As of this writing, there are two known serious problems with the most recent ActivelTcl 8.5 releases for Mac OS X, 8.5.12 and 8.5.12.1. (See Issues #15574 and #15853 for more information.) Until these issues are resolved, use the previous release of ActiveTcl, 8.5.11.1, which is available for download here. This is an Aqua Cocoa Tk.

But the "download here" link is borken:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActiveTcl/releases/8.5.11.1/ Not Found The requested URL /ActiveTcl/releases/8.5.11.1/ was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at downloads.activestate.com Port 80

As it so turns out, this is on purpose on ActiveState's part:

http://www.activestate.com/activetcl/downloads Looking for access to older versions of ActiveTcl? Community Edition offers access to the newest versions of ActiveTcl. Access to older versions is available in Business Edition and Enterprise Edition.

Business edition is a thousand bucks a pop ( http://www.activestate.com/business-edition ) so I has a bit of a sad - I was just trying to run a quick experiment and have dived down a rabbit hole. It appears also that ActiveTcl has gone beyond the buggy edition listed on the Python.org tcltk page, so I'm going to give that a try.

-Anthony -- Dr. Anthony G. Francis, Jr. ~ Renaissance Engineer ~ 408 221 7894 centaur@dresan.com ~ www.fanufiku.com ~ www.dakotafrost.com

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