I'm not sure if I should ask this here, but I've tried crew@starship and comp.lang.python, so forgive me please. There are links all over the place (eg. python.org, oriellynet) to "http://starship.python.net/", which currently gets the gentle browsing newbie a rather forbidding, somewhat out-of-date status page. I don't really think this gives a good impression. Particularly as said page is no longer on the machine that had the hard disc failure... Cheers, M.