experimental: Misc/NEWS included in docs

Hi, at http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/news.html, there is now a rendering of Misc/NEWS with tracker links and a crude filtering capability. I thought that this will complement the "whatsnew" documents nicely for people looking for more detail. Please let me know if it's useful, or what could be done to make it *more* useful. cheers, Georg

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl@gmx.net> wrote:
Good idea. Some suggestions: * A note at the top explaining what this page is and how it differs from the other What's New page (including perhaps a link to the other What's New page). It might also be good if the two had more distinctive titles. They are currently "What’s New in Python" and "Python News." * It would be good if the section links could somehow be "perma-links." They will currently vary over time, e.g. http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/news.html#id3 * Lastly, I think skimming this list would be more informative to me at least if each bullet began with the name of the affected module or area (at least in the case where just one module is affected). The issue number is less meaningful as a descriptive header. Changing this would likely require changes in how we prepare Misc/NEWS though. On a separate but related note, I never know where to put the various subsections in relation to one another in Misc/NEWS (Core and Builtins, Library, Extension Modules, etc). It would be good if there was guidance on that -- even if to say it completely doesn't matter. --Chris

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:14:37 -0700 Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdonek@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed. I think the titles are currently very confusing. The page you've just added should be called something like "Changelog", to stress its more bare'n'technical natural compared to our official "What's New" pages. Also it would be extra nice if the "What's new in Python X.Y" section headers could be renamed to "Python X.Y changelog", or similar. Regards Antoine. -- Software development and contracting: http://pro.pitrou.net

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl@gmx.net> wrote:
Please have a look again (it's renamed to .../changelog.html); Ezio and I tried to incorporate all the suggestions.
Very nice. I tweaked the wording in the 3.3.1 section to be more explicit that it hasn't been released yet and people should look further down for the 3.3.0 changes. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl@gmx.net> wrote:
Good idea. Some suggestions: * A note at the top explaining what this page is and how it differs from the other What's New page (including perhaps a link to the other What's New page). It might also be good if the two had more distinctive titles. They are currently "What’s New in Python" and "Python News." * It would be good if the section links could somehow be "perma-links." They will currently vary over time, e.g. http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/news.html#id3 * Lastly, I think skimming this list would be more informative to me at least if each bullet began with the name of the affected module or area (at least in the case where just one module is affected). The issue number is less meaningful as a descriptive header. Changing this would likely require changes in how we prepare Misc/NEWS though. On a separate but related note, I never know where to put the various subsections in relation to one another in Misc/NEWS (Core and Builtins, Library, Extension Modules, etc). It would be good if there was guidance on that -- even if to say it completely doesn't matter. --Chris

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:14:37 -0700 Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdonek@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed. I think the titles are currently very confusing. The page you've just added should be called something like "Changelog", to stress its more bare'n'technical natural compared to our official "What's New" pages. Also it would be extra nice if the "What's new in Python X.Y" section headers could be renamed to "Python X.Y changelog", or similar. Regards Antoine. -- Software development and contracting: http://pro.pitrou.net

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl@gmx.net> wrote:
Please have a look again (it's renamed to .../changelog.html); Ezio and I tried to incorporate all the suggestions.
Very nice. I tweaked the wording in the 3.3.1 section to be more explicit that it hasn't been released yet and people should look further down for the 3.3.0 changes. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia
participants (6)
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Antoine Pitrou
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Brett Cannon
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Chris Jerdonek
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Georg Brandl
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Nick Coghlan
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Peter Otten