anatoly techtonik writes:

Quite an interesting question recently popped up in pygame community that I'd like to ask to Python developers.

This forum is specifically about development *of* Python. You would do better to ask on the discussion forum for Python users URL:http://www.python.org/community/lists/#comp-lang-python. Or, if you're interested in gauging interest in a new idea for changing Python, you could raise it on the ‘python-ideas’ forum URL:http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.ideas. -- \ “The generation of random numbers is too important to be left | `\ to chance.” —Robert R. Coveyou | _o__) | Ben Finney

Quite an interesting question recently popped up in pygame community that I'd like to ask to Python developers.

How many of you use IDLE?

I do, sometimes.

What's wrong with it?

AFAICT, nothing.

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From my side I like the idea of having default Python editor that is small, fast, convenient and extensible/embeddable. IDLE is small and fast, but I feel really uncomfortable with its. The worst thing - I can't change it.

This I cannot understand. I have changed IDLE many times. Regards, Martin

anatoly techtonik wrote:

Hello,

Quite an interesting question recently popped up in pygame community that I'd like to ask to Python developers.

How many of you use IDLE?

I use it if it's the only syntax highlighting Python editor on the box (since machines in the lab usually aren't set up with full dev environments). Otherwise I'm more likely to use a general syntax highlighting text editor (e.g. Kate on KDE)

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From my side I like the idea of having default Python editor that is small, fast, convenient and extensible/embeddable. IDLE is small and fast, but I feel really uncomfortable with its. The worst thing - I can't change it. Does anybody else feel the same to think if we could replace IDLE with something more maintainable by providing Scintilla bindings, for example?

I don't particularly *like* IDLE, but that's largely because I don't like Tcl/Tk. However, as far as cross-platform widget sets that are reasonable to bundle with Python go (both from a licensing and code size perspective), choices are pretty limited (plus Tcl/Tk has the advantage of incumbency). So while I can't claim to like Idle in and of itself, I do like the fact that the language comes with its own syntax highlighting editor. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------