Re: [Python-Dev] External Package Maintenance (was Re: Please stop changing wsgiref on the trunk)
[posting back to python-dev in case others also perceived my original message as impolite] At 01:25 PM 6/12/2006 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Oh, and the tone of your email was *not* polite. Messages starting with "I wasted an hour of my time" are not polite pretty much by definition.
Actually, I started out with "please" -- twice, after having previously asked please in advance. I've also seen lots of messages on Python-Dev where Tim Peters wrote about having wasted time due to other folks not following established procedures, and I tried to emulate his tone. I guess I didn't do a very good job, but not everybody is as funny as Tim is. :) Usually he manages to make it seem as though he would really be happy to give up his nights and weekends but that sadly, he just doesn't have any more time right at this particular moment. A sort of "it's not you, it's me" thing. I guess I just left out that particular bit of sleight-of-mouth. :) Anyway, will anyone who was offended by the original message please pretend that it was delightfully witty and written by Tim instead? Thanks. ;)
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[posting back to python-dev in case others also perceived my original message as impolite]
At 01:25 PM 6/12/2006 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Oh, and the tone of your email was *not* polite. Messages starting with "I wasted an hour of my time" are not polite pretty much by definition.
Actually, I started out with "please" -- twice, after having previously asked please in advance. I've also seen lots of messages on Python-Dev where Tim Peters wrote about having wasted time due to other folks not following established procedures, and I tried to emulate his tone. I guess I didn't do a very good job, but not everybody is as funny as Tim is. :)
Usually he manages to make it seem as though he would really be happy to give up his nights and weekends but that sadly, he just doesn't have any more time right at this particular moment. A sort of "it's not you, it's me" thing. I guess I just left out that particular bit of sleight-of-mouth. :)
Anyway, will anyone who was offended by the original message please pretend that it was delightfully witty and written by Tim instead? Thanks. ;)
I wonder what the hell's up with Tim. He's been really crabby lately ... regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my blog http://holdenweb.blogspot.com Recent Ramblings http://del.icio.us/steve.holden
At 12:09 AM 6/13/2006 +0100, Steve Holden wrote:
Anyway, will anyone who was offended by the original message please
Phillip J. Eby wrote: pretend
that it was delightfully witty and written by Tim instead? Thanks. ;)
I wonder what the hell's up with Tim. He's been really crabby lately ...
It's probably all that time he's been spending tracking down the wsgiref test failures. ;-)
[Phillip J. Eby]
Actually, I started out with "please" -- twice, after having previously asked please in advance. I've also seen lots of messages on Python-Dev where Tim Peters wrote about having wasted time due to other folks not following established procedures, and I tried to emulate his tone. I guess I didn't do a very good job, but not everybody is as funny as Tim is. :)
... [Steve Holden]
I wonder what the hell's up with Tim. He's been really crabby lately ...
Moi? Not at all! Once or twice a year I do get pissed off when a period of scant free time coincides with a period of people checking in test-breaking changes that _would_ have failed on their own box had they bothered to run the tests at all. That's plain bad practice, and deserves all the flaming pixels a mythical authority figure can conjure up in opposition. But that hasn't happened lately (test_wsgiref only failed under -O, and I don't expect people to run tests that way routinely -- I run the tests 8 ways when a release is coming up).
Anyway, will anyone who was offended by the original message please pretend that it was delightfully witty and written by Tim instead? Thanks. ;)
No -- but because I wasn't offended to begin with. Let's compromise: everyone can pretend they wrote this message instead, so if nobody replies everyone can pretend they got the last word :-)
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Phillip J. Eby
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Steve Holden
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Tim Peters