On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jesse Noller<jnoller@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Paul Moore<p.f.moore@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/7/20 Jesse Noller <jnoller@gmail.com>:
So python -m "setuptools.commands.easy_install" <args> or python `which easy_install` is a-ok for people? I find it much easier to tell someone "run easy_install" or "run pylint" rather than either one of the previous examples.
No, but "python -m easy_install" is fine. The fact that setuptools doesn't provide a form designed for use with python -m doesn't mean that there's a problem with the feature, just that setuptools wasn't designed with it in mind.
Paul.
I don't know if easy_install does or doesn't - I simply used it as an example. What I don't parse is that python -m <module> is somehow a replacement for ./script - the logic within a script can do a lot more than just firing off the __main__ of a module. Are we saying that "scripts are considered harmful" and recommend people only support -m for this?
I'm personally OK with saying that scripts are no longer directly supported. That means that users will be forced to run scripts like: python -m mypackage.script -- --my-args Is this accessible to new users and Windows users?
There's over 7000 packages, applications and libraries in the cheeseshop right now. A fair number of them would run face first into the non-versioned binary problem. I guess distutils (in a future version) should just deprecate the scripts/entry points options entirely?
This is what scares me about using 'python -m'. I think you would have to do this.
I really don't think this is an edge case, or should be unsupported. Sure, the same problem exists outside of the .local directory - you run into this installing things into the default system-level site-packages and /usr/bin /usr/local/bin directories, but there's no real reason we can't make this work better in the context of .local
I currently have this issue all over the place. Every time I install software on my Buildbot I have to remember to move the script xyz to xyz$PYVER. I'm running 4 different versions of Python and as you can imagine this issues frustrates me. -- David blog: http://www.traceback.org twitter: http://twitter.com/dstanek