On 1 March 2014 19:11, Georg Brandl firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Am 01.03.2014 09:40, schrieb ian o:
I guess I expected a more open community. I have learned a lot, but not what I expected. I am still not sure what the criteria is to actually be welcome here.
I'm sorry you feel like this. It's definitely not the intention of this list to exclude people -- just look at the wild ideas being discussed all the time...
The Python 2/3 topic is simply a "sore point" for many of us, having discussed it time and again, often times with quite aggressive people (with the "why have you ruined my Python" mindset). Therefore we tend to become a little categorical faster than with other topics, even to people like you who aren't being aggressive. I hope you can forgive Nick, who has put tons of work into the excellent 2 vs 3 FAQ, being a bit thin-skinned :)
Aye, I hit the "This is holding back Python!" in Ian's original post, and subsequently interpreted the rest of the post (and thread) in an extremely negative light.
We get a *lot* of people making such accusations (understandably so, even though those accusations aren't adequately backed up by the available data), so I have a very low tolerance at the moment for anything that even hints at commercial operations complaining about the quality of open source work they aren't funding (or otherwise contributing to), but are relying on anyway.
However, Ian, It sounds like that wasn't your intent, so my apologies (once again) for taking it that way.