On 5 July 2015 at 19:26, Guido van Rossum firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Basically agreeing with what's been said already: IPython is an application that has Python (and some other things) as a dependency. So is IDLE. Python itself should ideally not be bundled with any applications -- it's a historical accident that IDLE is in the stdlib. Of course there should be a basic command prompt, but I think that the existing one based on GNU readline is fine for that purpose.
This does raise an interesting question though: should we perhaps update the "getting & installing" parts of https://docs.python.org/3/using/index.html to cover more of the available options?
For users interested in Python for research and data analysis, for example, the SciPy page on installing Python would likely be a better starting point than our upstream guide: http://www.scipy.org/install.html
Similarly, someone looking for a more sophisticated IDE than IDLE would do well to explore PyCharm, Komodo, Wingware, Visual Studio Community Edition, or one of the other options listed at https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
It may also be worth our while to update https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html and/or https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/interpreter.html to include a cross-reference to the usage guide for more detailed installation instructions (it took me a moment to remember where the platform specific installation guides were myself, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone reading the tutorial with no other context also had trouble finding them).
-- Nick Coghlan | email@example.com | Brisbane, Australia