Just to add, I think your statement actually works in my favour rather than against my proposal. People from this group are potentially biased and lack objectivity against what I am proposing because they are familiar with python and more experienced ones participated in “carved in stone” decision regarding already existent `ifelse` expression. So I expected that my proposal might even look humorous to some. E.g. In survey I got a comment “to learn python if I want to use it”. I am doing my best, just some parts of it are hard to digest in the context of other parts that are so easily digestible.
On 17 Jul 2023, at 21:37, Dom Grigonis <dom.grigonis@gmail.com> wrote:
This is NOT a good example, my first language was R, second - python, third matlab, etc.
I only became familiar with C/C++ after several years of coding experience.
This is why, I would dare to say that this preference of mine is not affected by prejudices.
On 17 Jul 2023, at 20:44, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 03:13, Dom Grigonis <dom.grigonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe for someone who majored in languages python’s if-else is more easily understood. To me, personally, 2nd one is unbearable, while 1st one is fairly pleasant and satisfying.
This is a REALLY good example of how hard it is to be objective about syntax. Being familiar with something really truly does make it immensely better - for you. You're comfortable with the C syntax. That's great! So am I. But that isn't a good indication of how it would be accepted by someone who isn't familiar with either syntax.
The ?: syntax has the advantage that the evaluation order is left-to-right, which is the most common (though far from universal) evaluation order. That is a definite advantage, to be sure, but perhaps not as big as you might think. The if/else syntax is more consistent with other Python syntax by using words, though.
Ultimately, *all* syntax has to be learned.
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