I do see all subjects in python-ideas, but I often mute unproductive threads. I also take my cues from the responses of others. I also spend an inordinate amount skimming email in general, and I don't expect others to do so (in fact, I wish some folks wouldn't spend so much time writing long emails -- or would spend more time making them shorter :-). On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
Cross-posted to redirect discussion. Replies directed to Python-Ideas.
Erik Bray writes on Python-Dev:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:
The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas
Was it discussed there? That list has become totally useless, I've stopped following it.
Considering that a useful discussion of a useful PEP occurred there (not to mention other occasionally useful discussions) I'd say that such a value judgment is not only unnecessary but also inaccurate.
As you point out, the words "totally" and "useless" were unnecessary and inaccurate respectively.
However, the gist of his post, that the S/N on Python-Ideas has become substantially lower in the last few months, seems accurate to me. At least two recent threads could have been continued on Python-List, where they would have benefited a lot more users, and they didn't seem profitable on Python-Ideas since it was quite evident that Those Who Know About Python were adamantly opposed to the idea as discussed in the thread, while the proponent kept pushing on that brick wall rather than seeking a way around it.
I myself continue to follow Python-Ideas, Nick and other committers are posting here daily, and even Guido manages to pop up occasionally, so that may be no problem (or even a good thing if it results in educating and inviting new committers in the long run). But I think it's worth considering whether it we should cultivate a bit more discipline here.
Again, discussion on Python-Ideas, please.
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