On 08/12/2021 19:27, Paul Moore wrote:
The reason deferred objects keep coming up is because they *do* have a much more compelling benefit - they help in a much broader range of cases.
That may be true. I don't know. Can anyone provide some realistic use cases? I've read the whole thread and I can only recall at most one, viz. the default value is expensive to compute and may not be needed. But that is a good time *not* to use a late-bound default! (The sentinel idiom would be better.) Anything can be used inappropriately, that doesn't make it bad per se. I don't wish to disparage anyone's motives. I am sure all the posts were made sincerely and honestly. But without examples (of how deferred objects would be useful), if *feels to me* (no doubt wrongly) as if people are using a fig leaf to fight against this PEP. Best wishes Rob Cliffe