Guido van Rossum wrote:
But, as Christian Tismer wrote, we need to have some kind of idea of what the primitives are that we want to support.
Well, I was just responding to your asking what the yield-from equivalent would be to the corresponding thing using Futures. I assumed from the fact that you asked that it was something Futures-using people like to do a lot, so it would be worth putting into a library. There may be other ways to approach it, though. Suppose we had a primitive that just waits for a single task to finish and returns its value. Then we could do this: def par(*tasks): for task in tasks: scheduler.schedule(task) return [yield from scheduler.wait_for(task) for task in tasks] That's straightforward enough that maybe it doesn't even need to be a library function, just a well-known pattern.
Maybe you meant condition variable? It looks like threading.Condition with notify_all().
Something like that -- the terminology probably varies a bit from one library to another. The basic concept is "set of tasks waiting for some condition to become true".
Anyway, I agree we need some primitives like these, but I'm not sure how to choose the set of essentials.
I think that most, maybe all, of the standard synchronisation mechanisms, like mutexes and semaphores, can be built out of the primitives I've already introduced -- essentially just block() and yield. So anything of this kind that we provide will be more in the way of convenience features than essential primitives. -- Greg