On 28 October 2011 23:27, Greg Ewing email@example.com wrote:
Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
Hi, I've taken the liberty to translate your examples using a small utility that I wrote some time ago and modified to mimic your proposal (imperfectly, of course, since this runs on unpatched python). FWIW, you can see and download the resulting files here (.html files for viewing, .py files for downloading):
Thanks for your efforts, although I'm not sure how much it helps to see them this way -- the whole point is to enable writing such code *without* going through any great contortions. I suppose they serve as an example of what you would be saved from writing.
Don't worry, it didn't take me too long. I still think there's a value is seeing how the same can be achieved without the machinery in the PEP (and the yield from PEP). In particular, it makes it possible to discuss what limitations an approach has which the other doesn't.
E.g. one important aspect is diagnosing problems when things went wrong (which, IIRC, was more prevalent in the initial discussion of this proposal on this list). This is mentioned in the "Motivation and Rationale" section, but there is no reason a priori why the same safeguards couldn't be put in place without the PEP.