On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Antoine Pitrou
Isn't that "impression" largely constructed, and propagated by a limited number of people who apparently don't like the very idea of a "batteries included" stdlib?
I don't think so. I've no particular dislike of "batteries included" per se. What I don't like is dealing with packages that may or may not be in the standard library (that affects the requirements for my software), or that may have different names or update policies depending on whether they're part of the standard library (because that affects my code, always negatively).
There has been an amount of anti-stdlib activism (including in this thread) that I find both antagonizing and unconstructive. Outside of that vocal minority, there doesn't seem to be that much criticism against the stdlib.
Unconstructive in what way? Writing cross-Python-version code that deals with the differences between the stdlib and 3rd-party versions of packages is certainly unconstructive, but that's an argument to avoid moving packages into the standard library. One thing that seems to be happening is that the so-called "vocal minority" is growing. I think that should be expected as the acceptance of Python and applications built on it gain wider penetration. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. <fdrake at gmail.com> "Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller