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On 8 Jul 2020, at 23:58, William Pickard email@example.com wrote:
CPython at the very least has 2 different type of native states: Interpreter & Module state. Unfortunately, the multi-phase initialization has a weakness when it comes to Module states.
You can't access the module state without a pointer to the module. PyState_GetModule from a standpoint looks to be the obvious answer to use, but it's documentation states it's unfit for multi-phase initialization.
I'm proposing an idea here for discussion on a new state system for at least CPython.
Tier 1: Core state - This state lives within CPython's core binary and exists the entire lifetime of the binary. - The data held within this state is available to the main interpreter and subsequent sub-interpreters. (Example: sys.executable)
Tier 2-1: Interpreter state (Branches from Core state) - This state lives within CPython's core binary and is tied to a specific interpreter. - The data held within this state is only available to the interpreter it's tied to. (Example: Modules loaded into memory)
Tier 2-2: Extension state (Branches from Core state) - This state lives within any CPython's core binary EXCEPT it's size and structure is defined by the extension CPython has loaded. - The purpose of this state is to allow an extension to hold data that can't be tied to a specific module. (Examples can be: Windows WSA, MySQL)
Tier 3-1: Thread state (Branches from Interpreter State) - This state lives within CPython's core binary and is tied to a specific Python thread (IE: Threading library threads), - The data held within this state is only available to the thread it's tied to. (No known examples available)
Tier 3-2: Module state (Branches from Interpreter State) - This type of state is already available in CPython, explaining it is not required. _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe send an email to email@example.com https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://firstname.lastname@example.org/message/FEL2CW... Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/