The fact of the matter is that you need (at least) two things to get something new into Python:

1) a good idea that folks will support

2) A "champion" -- someone to keep the conversation going, maybe write a PEP, etc.

No matter how great an idea is, it takes a lot of work to get it to a consensus and get it done.

For this idea, no one has stepped up to that role, so it petered out -- which is not uncommon on this list.


On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 3:49 AM Chris Angelico <> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:16 PM Steven D'Aprano <> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:46:58AM +0200, Marco Sulla wrote:
> > Well, "up" it's used in forums to draw attention :)
> My ex-boss used to do the same thing except he would use "ping" to get
> attention.
> But in his case he would quote his previous (unanswered) question, so
> that we would at least know the context of the ping.

And when someone's your boss, he can reasonably expect/demand an
answer, so a context-free "ping" really means "hey guys, you didn't
get around to this, and it's important to your jobs". No such
obligation on mailing lists like this.

> Did you have a specific question to be answered or are you just hoping
> to get people interested in the proposal?

A proposal that requires syntactic changes, demonstrates no use-cases
beyond "wouldn't this be nice", allows us to write Java code in
Python, and maybe even in the future, allows us to do what we can
already do with type annotations? I'm amazed python-ideas hasn't
already had a hundred-post thread on the subject!

only half joking, too...
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