On Feb 10, 2015, at 14:15, Chris Angelico email@example.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Andrew Barnert firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
(for many developers, "comes with VS" or "comes with Xcode" probably means "not third party")
For many, "comes with PyCharm" probably has the same feeling as regards Python code.
Sure, and there are probably others for whom "comes with Anaconda" does (one user on Stack Overflow refused to accept that IPython wasn't part of standard Python, although he knew the qtconsole mode wasn't). So I guess you're right, it's an even trickier question than I said. :)