On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:04 PM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <arj.python@gmail.com> wrote:
This list is about discussing the idea,
not only stating an opinion. I know
i am not endearing people to me but i
prefer threads to remain short and on
topic which helps projects like these:
https://abdur-rahmaanj.github.io/pyfaq
The lists make great finds but it's more
difficult when many mails which don't
bring value to the discussion are present

Having some number of +1/-1s are useful in python-ideas threads, especially coming from those with significant relevant experience or have some influence in whether the proposal will be eventually accepted (such as core devs, who could potentially sponsor the eventual PEP). In-depth feedback contributes more to the topic, but without those +1/-1s, it's harder to assess if the idea has gained enough traction to justify turning it into a PEP (or simply implementing a feature).

Sorry if that adds to the volume of messages to sort through, but that's just simply how python-ideas works.

FWIW, I'm personally against the proposal because it's trivial to look up the PEP to figure out those additional details, which you would likely have to do anyways if you weren't familiar with that PEP. It's not worth a significant change in convention that would require a significant mental shift from practically the entire Python community. It would require a conscious effort to check if the PEP was accepted prior to deciding whether to use "PEP" or "PAP", as well as the initial learning to figure out "WTF is a PAP?". For an individual it would be a small cost, but if you were to consider that small cost replicated for all of the millions of Python users and thousands of reference materials that would need to be updated to address "PAP", it doesn't seem worth the marginal at best benefit.

Regards,
Kyle Stanley