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On 30Mar2014 08:05, Nick Coghlan firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
On 30 March 2014 06:54, Ben Finney email@example.com wrote:
Richard Prosser firstname.lastname@example.org writes: We have generally-appicable services that index the web and make much better search tools. I don't often find a site's own custom search tool to be sufficiently better to use it, when DuckDuckGo is available.
That said, migrating to Mailman3 + HyperKitty is definitely in the longer term plans for the python.org mailing list infrastructure, and that includes integrated search on the HyperKitty side of things.
While Mailman3 has been an ongoing project for quite some time (I believe the remaining blockers mostly relate to handling migrations of existing Mailman 2 installations), the HyperKitty work is mostly being driven by some Fedora folks in order to upgrade Fedora's own infrastructure. You can see the current state of the prototype here: https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/
Please tell me Mailman3 still includes the pipermail stuff still.
Looking at the Fedora HyperKitty page you cite, is it just me or is this really slow and clunky? [Ten minutes later...] It is slightly quicker now, but that first page load took minutes.
The main page search (multilist) doesn't show the list name in the search results, making it harder to gauge relevance.
I think this is an argument for the OP's "convenient search of relevant python lists" request, even if that were a quick hack that readirected to a general purpose search engine with a funky search criterion. But a search engine covers multiple sites; this can only search its own lists.
Also, there are no archive download links. Nor can I see the original text of any message (no headers or anything). This cripples personal searching.
When I join a list my first act, if possible, is to download the pipermail archives and unpack them into the mail folder in which future lists posts will go.
That gets me:
local search of local data access when offline, privacy, speed, whatever tools or indices I prefer
search tools of my choosing (eg mairix or mu), including the search facilities of my mail reader
using my mail reader search lets me read messages in my _preferred_ form, as it would for anyone else using their preferrer mail reader
Without an archive download, this is all far far less useful.
HyperKitty looks... pretty... I suppose (for some definition of the term; I'm no far of the great big blocks of whitespace on either side, etc), for someone who enjoys web forums.
Cameron Simpson email@example.com