Hence why I said 'would', 'if' etc. And it was brought up/suggested, having singletons. It does naturally flow from having a built-in (much like having singletons for booleans does):

sugggesting that one reason that they were made keywords is that it's useful for them to be singletons, which is much harder to do (or at least use consistently) if the names can be reassigned.
But these float special values can't be singletons anyway -- they could come from anywhere, so you really don't want to have people doing:

(to be honest, to me it does make sense to have 'inf' singletons, but not for 'nan's. but, neither is part of the PEP).

'inf' is a very special value, and there are only 2 infinite floats (inf, -inf).
Having a singleton is useful also perhaps as a memory optimization (i.e. whenever creating a float from C, check if it is infinite, and if so, return a new reference to the global inf/-inf variable).

Again, this is not part of the PEP, so I don't think we want to spend much time discussing whether they should be singletons. For now, the answer seems to be: no
Thanks,
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Cade Brown
Research Assistant @ ICL (Innovative Computing Laboratory)
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 10:19 PM Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 11:05 AM Cade Brown <brown.cade@gmail.com> wrote:
> This would become relevant, if, say Python 4.0 migrated 'inf' and 'nan' to builtin names (like True and False). If that happened, a 'nan' singleton wouldn't make sense unless you had 2**53 of them, so code like:
>
>   >>> x is nan
>
> Would be a flawed formulation
>

Nobody's suggesting that they become keywords representing singletons,
which is what True and False are. (At least, I don't think so.) What's
being proposed is simply a builtin name that has a value of
float("inf"). People don't write "x is 1.5" and they shouldn't use "x
is inf". It doesn't matter that there are multiple bit patterns that
represent nan; you shouldn't be doing this even when there's only one
bit pattern for the value. Yes, sometimes people do this with small
integers, and in CPython it may work ("x is 5" will usually be true
for any integer 5), but it's just as buggy there and I don't think
that's particularly relevant.

(How often do people even use "x is True"?)

ChrisA
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