On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 at 13:10 Paul Moore <p.f.moore@gmail.com> wrote:
On 23 June 2017 at 19:28, Brendan Barnwell <brenbarn@brenbarn.net> wrote:
> So to put it succinctly, as someone who's found discussion on this list
> interesting and valuable, I think there is value in having discussion about
> "what would Python be like if this idea were implemented" even if we never
> get very far with "how would we implement this idea in Python".  And I would
> find it unfortunate if discussion of the former were prematurely restricted
> by worries about the latter.

No-one is proposing otherwise, just that people are open when starting
a discussion as to whether they anticipate being able to follow
through with an implementation if the idea meets with approval, or if
they are simply making a suggestion that they hope someone else will
take up. That's not too much to ask, nor does it in any way stifle
reasonable discussion (it may discourage people who want to
*deliberately* give the impression that they will do the work, but
actually have no intention of doing so - but I hope there's no-one
like that here and if there were, I'm happy with discouraging them).

So I'm +1 on Brett's request.

+1 to what Paul and Guido said: people are welcome to have hypothetical discussions here as long as they are upfront that it is hypothetical, but I personally choose to ignore all discussions that don't involve discussing the implementation of said idea (hence why learning that at the end is frustrating for those of us who are trying to be pragmatic with our time). Sorry if that wasn't clear enough in my original email where the distinction between "Brett as list admin" and "Brett as list participant" started and ended.