On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:44 PM, David Teresi <dkteresi@gmail.com> wrote:
> print(f'{value!d}') is a lot of symbols and boilerplate to type out just for
> a debugging statement that will be deleted later. Especially now that
> breakpoint() exists, I can't really see myself using this.
>
> I also don't see the use case of it being within an f-string, because I've
> never had to interpolate a debug string within some other string or format
> it in a fancy way. You said it yourself, taking advantage of other f-string
> features isn't very useful in this case.
>
> If other people can find a use for it, I'd suggest making it ita own
> function -- debug(value) or something similar.

There was some discussion of this back in April:

    https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2018-April/050113.html

I think the way I'd do it would be:

Step 1: Take the current "lnotab" that lets us map bytecode offsets -> line numbers, and extend it with more detailed information, so that we can map e.g. a CALL operation to the exact start and end positions of that call expression in the source. This is free at runtime, and would allow more detailed tracebacks (see [1] for an example), and more detailed coverage information. It would definitely take some work to thread the necessary information through the compiler infrastructure, but I think this would be a worthwhile feature even without the debug() use case.

Step 2: Add a 'debug' helper function that exploits the detailed information to reconstruct its call, by peeking into the calling frame and finding the source for the call. Of course this would be a strange and ugly thing to do for a regular function, but for a debugging helper it's reasonable. So e.g. if you had the code:

  total = debug(x) + debug(y / 10)

The output might be:

  debug:myfile.py:10: 'x' is 3
  debug:myfile.py:10: 'y / 10' is 7

Or if you have a clever UI, like in an IDE or ipython, maybe it overrides the debug() operator to print something like:

  total = debug(x) + debug(y / 10)
                                     ^ 3

  total = debug(x) + debug(y / 10)
                                                              ^^^^^^^ 7

(for anyone for whom the rendering is borked: on my screen the "x" on the first line and the "y / 10" on the second line are highlighted in a different font, and the carets draw an underline beneath them.)

-n

[1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2018-April/050137.html

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