Rhodri wrote:
Again, these are statements.  I can take a guess at what Vinay wants,
but since that involves a rather large worm can I'd rather they actually
stated it outright.

I'm puzzled.

Reading https://bugs.python.org/issue38035, to me it seems that Ned Deily, Ido Michael and Tal Einat all understood Vinay's request well enough to suggest a way forward, a way to provide what Vinay wants. However Rhodri is able only to guess what Vinay wants.

I suggest Rhodri and I bow out of this discussion for now, and allow Vinay to clarify, and others to contribute, if they wish.

best regards