On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 6:09 PM David Mertz
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:57 AM
wrote: The mode-switch proposal though would not impede one to mix shorthand and longhand forms. This should be valid syntax:
```python return render_template("index.html", *, twitter, username=user["display_name"], channel, channelid, error, setups=database.list_setups(channelid), sched_tz, schedule, sched_tweet, checklist=database.get_checklist(channelid), timers=database.list_timers(channelid), tweets, ) ```
I definitely hate the above version. Intermixing auto-named values with bound values is super-confusing and a huge bug magnet.
How is it confusing? How is it a bug magnet? I do think that example looks like a mess, but if each parameter is on its own line, I think it looks fine: ``` render_template( "index.html", *, twitter, username=user["display_name"], channel, channelid, error, setups=database.list_setups(channelid), sched_tz, schedule, sched_tweet, checklist=database.get_checklist(channelid), timers=database.list_timers(channelid), tweets, ) ```
However, the following does not look bad ONLY if the mode-switch is strictly to bare-names-only after the switch:
render_template("index.html", username=user["display_name"], setups=database.list_setups(channelid), checklist=database.get_checklist(channelid), timers=database.list_timers(channelid), **, twitter, channel, channelid, error, sched_tz, schedule, sched_tweet, tweets, **more_kwargs)
Putting the named parameters strictly first gives a hint to the fact that the rest are "special named parameters" (with auto-naming).
Why does that need emphasising? Are you thinking like Ricky and Steven D'Aprano that people might sometimes think that they're looking at positional arguments and get confused?