On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 07:35:45AM +0300, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-ideas wrote:
Actually, the way I'm using them,
assert condition, "error message", type
would probably be the most expressive way.
I disagree that is expressive -- I call it *misleading*. I see something which looks like an assertion (that is, a checked comment, a contract, a check on an internal piece of logic etc) but it is actually being used as a test.
I can do anything in any Turing-complete language without any changes to the language. That's no reason to never change anything, is it.
"We can change this" is not a reason to change this. There needs to be a *good* reason to change, and you have given no good reasons for this change.
The rationale basically is: * As it was intended, the statement has no practical use -- basically a rudiment, due to disappear eventually
Nonsense. I make extensive use of assert as a way of checking assertions, and I will fight tooth and nail against any proposal to either remove it or to misuse it for public input tests instead of assertions.
* It can instead be reused as syntax sugar to cover a very common use case
There is no need for such syntactic sugar. It would be harmful to use assert for something which is not an assertion. -- Steve