
On 25 April 2017 at 11:08, Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> wrote:
Hi. I suspect that this may have been discussed to death at some point in the past, but I've done some searching and I didn't come up with much.
Hi Erik, Offering more concise ways of writing more powerful class definitions is certainly a common topic of exploration in Python development. A couple of folks have already mentioned Hynek Schlawack's `attrs` packages, which pairs up a class decorator with particular kinds of values set as class level attributes: from attr import attrs, attrib @attrs class MyClass: foo = attrib() bar = attrib() baz = attrib() ... Here, the `attrs` decorator not only writes __init__ for you, but also __repr__, comparison operators, pickle support, and a range of other things. Glyph Lefkowitz put together a good post last year describing just how much functionality attrs implicitly adds to a typical class definition, all while making it shorter and less repetitive: https://glyph.twistedmatrix.com/2016/08/attrs.html So I think if Python were to make any changes to the default toolset in this area, it would be more along the lines of how `attrs` works (i.e. offering a more declarative approach to the high level task of defining structured data containers), than it would be along the lines of a low level syntactic solution that only benefited `__init__` and `__new__` without addressing any of the other repetitive aspects of writing comprehensive class definitions. For example, if we decided we wanted to go down that path, we could add a new `autoclass` module and write the equivalent of the above as: from autoclass import make, field @make class MyClass: foo = field() bar = field() baz = field() ... That would provide us with a clear terminological distinction between autoclass fields and class attributes in general, while still letting people eliminate a lot of the boilerplate currently involved in writing classes that produce nice and easy to use instances. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia