On 30 June 2018 at 16:25, Guido van Rossum email@example.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 3:23 PM Michael Selik firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I included an alternate solution of a new class, collections.Grouping, which has some advantages. In addition to having less of that "heavy-handed" feel to it, the class can have a few utility methods that help handle more use cases.
Hm, this actually feels heavier to me. But then again I never liked or understood the need for Counter -- I prefer basic data types and helper functions over custom abstractions. (Also your description doesn't do it justice, you describe a class using a verb phrase, "consume a sequence and construct a Mapping". The key to Grouping seems to me that it is a dict subclass with a custom constructor. But you don't explain why a subclass is needed, and in that sense I like the other approach better.
I'm not sure if the draft was updated since you looked at it, but it does mention that one benefit of the collections.Grouping approach is being able to add native support for mapping a callable across every individual item in the collection (ignoring the group structure), as well as for applying aggregate functions to reduce the groups to single values in a standard dict.
Delegating those operations to the container API that way then means that other libraries can expose classes that implement the grouping API, but with a completely different backend storage model.
But I still think it is much better off as a helper function in itertools.
I thought we actually had an open enhancement proposal for adding a "defaultdict.freeze" operation that switched it over to raising KeyError the same way a normal dict does, but I can't seem to find it now.