On 31 Mar 2014 08:22, "Cameron Simpson" firstname.lastname@example.org wrote: >
On 30Mar2014 08:05, Nick Coghlan email@example.com wrote:
On 30 March 2014 06:54, Ben Finney firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Richard Prosser email@example.com writes: We have generally-appicable services that index the web and make much better search tools. I don't often find a site's own custom search tool to be sufficiently better to use it, when DuckDuckGo is available.
That said, migrating to Mailman3 + HyperKitty is definitely in the longer term plans for the python.org mailing list infrastructure, and that includes integrated search on the HyperKitty side of things.
While Mailman3 has been an ongoing project for quite some time (I believe the remaining blockers mostly relate to handling migrations of existing Mailman 2 installations), the HyperKitty work is mostly being driven by some Fedora folks in order to upgrade Fedora's own infrastructure. You can see the current state of the prototype here: https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/
Please tell me Mailman3 still includes the pipermail stuff still.
Mailman3 includes a pluggable archiver model - that's how HyperKitty can be a separate project, specifically aimed at tackling the "seamless web gateway" problem.
That gets me:
local search of local data access when offline, privacy, speed, whatever tools or indices I prefer
search tools of my choosing (eg mairix or mu), including the search facilities of my mail reader
using my mail reader search lets me read messages in my _preferred_ form, as it would for anyone else using their preferrer mail reader
Without an archive download, this is all far far less useful.
The pluggable archiver model in MM3 means HyperKitty itself doesn't need to handle that usage model. However, I'm not aware of any current efforts to create an MM3 archiver that is closer to a pure pipermail replacement (the workflow you describe strikes me as being incredibly unusual these days, as it requires either running your own mail server, or only accessing your email from one device)