Andrew,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I am trying to write a Cmake file for cpython for those that want to contribute using Clion IDE and I will put it on a public repository. If it can be useful for some developers is worth sharing.

Best regards,
André Freitas



Em sáb, 23 de mai de 2015 às 03:08, Andrew Barnert <abarnert@yahoo.com> escreveu:
Sorry, meant to include this in my previous reply, but I accidentally cut and didn't paste...

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On May 22, 2015, at 17:08, André Freitas <p.andrefreitas@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Thanks for sharing Ryan Gonzalez :)

It just could be another alternative and not a replacement of autotools.

If the problem is that the autotools build system is a nightmare to maintain, how is having two completely different complex build systems that have to be kept perfectly in sync not going to be an even bigger nightmare?

Not only about the cross-platform feature of Cmake but the integration with modern IDEs. I really see an improvement in productivity using the IDE debugger (e.g Clion) instead of using prints everywhere (http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/78152/real-programmers-use-debuggers).

Why did you link to a question that was migrated and then closed as not constructive, and that was written to argue that debuggers are useless, and whose contrary answers only talk about command-line debugging rather than whether a GUI wrapper can help debugging? That seems to argue against your case, not for it...

2015-05-23 0:48 GMT+01:00 Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com>:
HAHAHA!!

Good luck! I've raised this issue before. Twice. Autotools sucks. And makes cross-compiling a pain in the neck. Bottom line was:

- C++ is a big dependency
- The autotools build system has been tested already on lots and lots and lots of platforms
- Nobody has even implemented an alternative build system for Python 3 yet (python-cmake is only for Python 2)
- No one can agree on a best build system (for instance, I hate CMake!)


On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:08 PM, André Freitas <p.andrefreitas@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
What you think about using Cmake build system? 

I see advantages such as:
- Cross-plataform;
- Supported in Clion IDE (amazing C/C++ IDE, breakpoints, etc);
- Simple and easy to use (Zen of Python :) https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0020/ );

I was actually seeing a discussion in python-commiters about Windows 7 buildbots failing. Found that someone already had the same idea but don't know if it was shared here: http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/BuildingPythonWithCMake

Please share your thoughts.

Regards,
André Freitas

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