(meta) Broken link to gmane.org archive of python-ideas

Heya all, I've joined this list and wanted to read the archives to get a flavour of the community here. I noticed that the link with text: gmane.org archive of python-ideas on the page: https://www.python.org/community/lists/ gives a HTML page with the only text being: Page Not Found I couldn't easily work out what the correct link should be, but part of the solution seems to be httpS:// Perhaps someone here knows how to wrangle gmane.org? -- Tom Hale

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 04:37:16PM +0700, Tom Hale wrote:
Alas, Gmane is only a shadow of its former self. Most of the archives are either lost or simply not restored. http://home.gmane.org/category/news/ If you don't like the mailman archives here https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/ you might try ActiveState: https://code.activestate.com/lists/python-ideas/ -- Steven

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 08:21:59PM +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Alas, Gmane is only a shadow of its former self. Most of the archives are either lost or simply not restored.
It is also worth pointing put that the "new" communication modes like Discourse, Slack or Gitter have no decent searchability or archives. Stefan Krah

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:31 PM Stefan Krah <skrah@bytereef.org> wrote:
Discourse, a modern web forum software, does have decent searchability and archives baked in. Discord, a web chat service, does not. Are you sure you're not somehow mixing the two up? I've lately seen people oppose Discourse as they think it is Discord, which is an understandable mixup in the midst of a flurry of new rapidly changing technologies and fora after a few decades of stability in how to communicate to each other over the internet (email, irc, usenet). -- Joni Orponen

On 13/5/19 5:21 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Would https://bugs.python.org/ be an appropriate place for suggesting the updated links, or is there a specific channel for web updates? -- Tom Hale

Bugs about the website should be reported to https://github.com/python/pythondotorg . On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 7:42 AM Tom Hale <tom@hale.ee> wrote:

On 14/5/19 10:53 am, Brett Cannon wrote:
Bugs about the website should be reported to https://github.com/python/pythondotorg .
Thanks, reported at: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/1435 -- Tom Hale

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 04:37:16PM +0700, Tom Hale wrote:
Alas, Gmane is only a shadow of its former self. Most of the archives are either lost or simply not restored. http://home.gmane.org/category/news/ If you don't like the mailman archives here https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/ you might try ActiveState: https://code.activestate.com/lists/python-ideas/ -- Steven

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 08:21:59PM +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Alas, Gmane is only a shadow of its former self. Most of the archives are either lost or simply not restored.
It is also worth pointing put that the "new" communication modes like Discourse, Slack or Gitter have no decent searchability or archives. Stefan Krah

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:31 PM Stefan Krah <skrah@bytereef.org> wrote:
Discourse, a modern web forum software, does have decent searchability and archives baked in. Discord, a web chat service, does not. Are you sure you're not somehow mixing the two up? I've lately seen people oppose Discourse as they think it is Discord, which is an understandable mixup in the midst of a flurry of new rapidly changing technologies and fora after a few decades of stability in how to communicate to each other over the internet (email, irc, usenet). -- Joni Orponen

On 13/5/19 5:21 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Would https://bugs.python.org/ be an appropriate place for suggesting the updated links, or is there a specific channel for web updates? -- Tom Hale

Bugs about the website should be reported to https://github.com/python/pythondotorg . On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 7:42 AM Tom Hale <tom@hale.ee> wrote:

On 14/5/19 10:53 am, Brett Cannon wrote:
Bugs about the website should be reported to https://github.com/python/pythondotorg .
Thanks, reported at: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/1435 -- Tom Hale
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Brett Cannon
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Joni Orponen
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Stefan Krah
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Steven D'Aprano
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Tom Hale