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A new module loader

Ryan Gonzalez

1 Apr 2015 1 Apr '15

7:32 p.m.

Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged? BTW... (rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf! -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

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Chris Angelico

1 Apr 1 Apr

7:51 p.m.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

LGTM. Before you can get this merged, you'll need to sign a contributor agreement, if you haven't already. Further discussion of the proposal's details can happen on the tracker: http://bugs.python.org/issue0401 ChrisA

Ryan Gonzalez

7:52 p.m.

Did you open the archive? On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

LGTM. Before you can get this merged, you'll need to sign a contributor agreement, if you haven't already. Further discussion of the proposal's details can happen on the tracker:

http://bugs.python.org/issue0401

ChrisA _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Chris Angelico

7:56 p.m.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Did you open the archive?

I did, and explored the code. It's so obviously an improvement over the current state that there's no reason to bikeshed the details. ChrisA

Skip Montanaro

8:20 p.m.

I like how it also tidies up the filesystem at the same time. Skip

Mark Lawrence

11:05 p.m.

On 01/04/2015 18:51, Chris Angelico wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

LGTM. Before you can get this merged, you'll need to sign a contributor agreement, if you haven't already. Further discussion of the proposal's details can happen on the tracker:

http://bugs.python.org/issue0401

ChrisA

What's the actual issue number, I get "There is no issue with id 401" ? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence

Serhiy Storchaka

11:14 p.m.

On 02.04.15 00:05, Mark Lawrence wrote:

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On 01/04/2015 18:51, Chris Angelico wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

LGTM. Before you can get this merged, you'll need to sign a contributor agreement, if you haven't already. Further discussion of the proposal's details can happen on the tracker:

http://bugs.python.org/issue0401

ChrisA

What's the actual issue number, I get "There is no issue with id 401" ?

Cris missed. The correct link is http://bugs.python.org/issue0104.

Devin Jeanpierre

11:14 p.m.

I think Chris meant to link to http://bugs.python.org/issue0404 , sorry for any confusion. -- Devin On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:

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On 01/04/2015 18:51, Chris Angelico wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

LGTM. Before you can get this merged, you'll need to sign a contributor agreement, if you haven't already. Further discussion of the proposal's details can happen on the tracker:

http://bugs.python.org/issue0401

ChrisA

What's the actual issue number, I get "There is no issue with id 401" ?

-- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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Mark Lawrence

11:31 p.m.

On 01/04/2015 22:14, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:

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On 02.04.15 00:05, Mark Lawrence wrote:

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On 01/04/2015 18:51, Chris Angelico wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

LGTM. Before you can get this merged, you'll need to sign a contributor agreement, if you haven't already. Further discussion of the proposal's details can happen on the tracker:

http://bugs.python.org/issue0401

ChrisA

What's the actual issue number, I get "There is no issue with id 401" ?

Cris missed. The correct link is http://bugs.python.org/issue0104.

"There is no issue with id 104"

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On 01/04/2015 22:14, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:> I think Chris meant to link to http://bugs.python.org/issue0404 , sorry for any confusion.

-- Devin

"There is no issue with id 404" Is this an April Fools? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence

Oleg Broytman

11:35 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:31:44PM +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:

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"There is no issue with id 404"

Is this an April Fools?

The day for the Error 404 is April 4. ;-) Oleg. -- Oleg Broytman http://phdru.name/ phd@phdru.name Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.

Devin Jeanpierre

11:43 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:

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Is this an April Fools?

Yes. The date is 04/01 or 01/04 depending on locale, and you are getting an HTTP 404. -- Devin

Ryan Gonzalez

11:45 p.m.

You didn't open the archive, did you? ;) On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:

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On 01/04/2015 22:14, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:

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On 02.04.15 00:05, Mark Lawrence wrote:

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On 01/04/2015 18:51, Chris Angelico wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

LGTM. Before you can get this merged, you'll need to sign a contributor agreement, if you haven't already. Further discussion of the proposal's details can happen on the tracker:

http://bugs.python.org/issue0401

ChrisA

What's the actual issue number, I get "There is no issue with id 401" ?

Cris missed. The correct link is http://bugs.python.org/issue0104.

"There is no issue with id 104"

On 01/04/2015 22:14, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:> I think Chris meant to link

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to http://bugs.python.org/issue0404 , sorry for any confusion.

-- Devin

"There is no issue with id 404"

Is this an April Fools?

-- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

_______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Andrew Barnert

2 Apr 2 Apr

12:13 a.m.

I tried this on Windows, and it has a serious Hanlon's Razor bug. Sent from my iPhone

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

BTW...

(rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf!

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Ryan Gonzalez

12:35 a.m.

On MSVC? If you want, you can remove the #ifdef's for MSVC. They're kind of useless. I just put them because it's funny. :) On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:

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I tried this on Windows, and it has a serious Hanlon's Razor bug.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

BTW...

(rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf!

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

_______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Andrew Barnert

1:06 a.m.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 15:35, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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On MSVC?

If you want, you can remove the #ifdef's for MSVC. They're kind of useless. I just put them because it's funny. :)

Google Hanlon's Razor, and I think you'll understand how to fix the bug.

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:

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I tried this on Windows, and it has a serious Hanlon's Razor bug.

Sent from my iPhone

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

BTW...

(rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf!

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Ryan Gonzalez

1:27 a.m.

I did. Most of it went over my head... On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 15:35, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

On MSVC?

If you want, you can remove the #ifdef's for MSVC. They're kind of useless. I just put them because it's funny. :)

Google Hanlon's Razor, and I think you'll understand how to fix the bug.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:

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I tried this on Windows, and it has a serious Hanlon's Razor bug.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

BTW...

(rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf!

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

_______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Ryan Gonzalez

1:30 a.m.

Since April Fools is almost over, I might as well post the GitHub link: https://github.com/kirbyfan64/pycob Have fun! On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

BTW...

(rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf!

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Andrew Barnert

1:48 a.m.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 16:27, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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I did. Most of it went over my head...

Ha, you're just pretending to be stupid as part of your evil plan. Err... Wait a second...

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 15:35, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

On MSVC?

If you want, you can remove the #ifdef's for MSVC. They're kind of useless. I just put them because it's funny. :)

Google Hanlon's Razor, and I think you'll understand how to fix the bug.

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote: I tried this on Windows, and it has a serious Hanlon's Razor bug.

Sent from my iPhone

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

BTW...

(rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf!

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Mark Lawrence

2:11 a.m.

On 01/04/2015 22:45, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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You didn't open the archive, did you? ;)

No, mainly because autistic people like myself don't like having our time wasted with crap like this. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence

Ryan

4:30 a.m.

Andrew Barnert wrote:

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 16:27, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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I did. Most of it went over my head...

Ha, you're just pretending to be stupid as part of your evil plan.

Err... Wait a second...

???? No, really. I have no clue what your point is.

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 15:35, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

On MSVC?

If you want, you can remove the #ifdef's for MSVC. They're kind of useless. I just put them because it's funny. :)

Google Hanlon's Razor, and I think you'll understand how to fix the bug.

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote: I tried this on Windows, and it has a serious Hanlon's Razor bug.

Sent from my iPhone

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged?

BTW...

(rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf!

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

-- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Terry Reedy

5:04 a.m.

On 4/1/2015 5:45 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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You didn't open the archive, did you? ;)

.tar files are not Windows friendly so I skipped it. -- Terry Jan Reedy

Chris Angelico

5:33 a.m.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:

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On 4/1/2015 5:45 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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You didn't open the archive, did you? ;)

.tar files are not Windows friendly so I skipped it.

7-zip is Windows-friendly and tar-friendly. You could ask for a social introduction. "Mr Tar, may I present Ms Windows?" ChrisA

Andrew Barnert

6:05 a.m.

On Apr 1, 2015, at 19:30, Ryan wrote:

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Andrew Barnert wrote:

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 16:27, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

I did. Most of it went over my head...

Ha, you're just pretending to be stupid as part of your evil plan.

Err... Wait a second...

????

No, really. I have no clue what your point is.

Hanlon's Razor says "Never attribute to evil that which is plausibly explained by stupidity." So, the fix is simple: 's/is evil/is stupid/g'. (Well, it would be simple if Windows came with sed. Or patch. Or... But if you have MSVC, you can buy a $30 tool that will simulate hitting ctrl-shift-F, clicking in the text boxes, typing the text, and clicking the three buttons, which is just as good, right?)

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote:

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On Apr 1, 2015, at 15:35, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

On MSVC?

If you want, you can remove the #ifdef's for MSVC. They're kind of useless. I just put them because it's funny. :)

Google Hanlon's Razor, and I think you'll understand how to fix the bug.

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Barnert wrote: I tried this on Windows, and it has a serious Hanlon's Razor bug.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > > Attached is a new module loader I've been working on that's an order of magnitude times faster than the current one. What would it take for this to be merged? > > BTW... > > (rot13) Ncevy Sbbyf! > > -- > Ryan > [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. > http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ > > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

-- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

Tim Delaney

1:51 p.m.

On 2 April 2015 at 14:33, Chris Angelico wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:

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On 4/1/2015 5:45 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:

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You didn't open the archive, did you? ;)

.tar files are not Windows friendly so I skipped it.

7-zip is Windows-friendly and tar-friendly. You could ask for a social introduction.

Unfortunately, 7-Zip does not support the PAX extended header (e.g. for long filenames). I'm not sure about the oldgnu format off the top of my head. Fortunately, the MinGW tools do. Tim Delaney

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