On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Blake Hyde wrote:

Is anything gained from this addition?

To give a practical answer, I could say that for newbies it's one small confusion that could removed from the language. You and I have been programming for a long time so we take it for granted that * means multiplication, but for any other person that's just another weird idiosyncrasy that further alienates programming. Also, I think that using * for multiplication is ugly.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ram Rachum wrote:

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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Mike Graham

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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Ram Rachum

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Hi everybody,

Today a funny thought occurred to me. Ever since I've learned to

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when I was a child, I've taken for granted that when programming, the sign used for multiplication is *. But now that I think about it, why? Now that we have Unicode, why not use · ?

Do you think that we can make Python support · in addition to *?

I can think of a couple of problems, but none of them seem like deal-breakers:

- Backward compatibility: Python already uses *, but I don't see a backward compatibility problem with supporting · additionally. Let people use whichever they want, like spaces and tabs. - Input methods: I personally use an IDE that could be easily set to automatically convert * to · where appropriate and to allow manual input of ·. People on Linux can type Alt-. . Anyone else can set up a script that'll let them type · using whichever keyboard combination they want. I admit this is pretty annoying, but since you can always use * if you want to, I figure that anyone who cares enough about using · instead of * (I bet that people in scientific computing would like that) would be willing to take the time to set it up.

What do you think?

Ram

Python should not expect characters that are hard for most people to type.

No one will be forced to type it. If you can't type it, use *.

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Python should not expect characters that are still hard to display on many common platforms.

We allow people to have unicode variable names, if they wish, don't we? So why not allow them to use unicode operator, if they wish, as a completely optional thing?

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I think you'll find strong opposition to adding any non-ASCII characters or characters that don't occur on almost all keyboards as part of the language.

Mike

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