Le 23/09/14 09:52, Giampaolo Rodola' a écrit :

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Tarek Ziadé mailto:tarek@ziade.org> wrote:

Hello

I realize I am using a lot this pattern:

>>> os.path.join(os.path.expanduser('~'), 'something', 'here') '/Users/tarek/something/here'

It's quite complicated, and not really intuitive.

I don't find that complicated, just a bit verbose perhaps, but it's definitively clear what it's doing and it is also explicit.

~ is a Unix notion I think, and since expanduser() works under Windows, I don't think it's that intuitive and explicit. Unless we'd change it so we omit "~" => e.g. os.path.expanduser() and os.path.expanduser('specificuser') Cheers Tarek

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:

Le 23/09/14 14:32, Tarek Ziadé a écrit : [...]

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~ is a Unix notion I think, and since expanduser() works under Windows, I don't think it's that intuitive and explicit.

Unless we'd change it so we omit "~" =>

e.g. os.path.expanduser() and os.path.expanduser('specificuser') I would even say that the api name "expanduser" is redundant with the fact that you absolutely need to pass a '~' as a first char if you want it to do something at all.

The more I think about it, the more I find it unintuitive

What about something like os.path.homedir or os.homedir? You could use, for example, homedir() to get the home directory of the current user, and homedir('username') to get the home directory of a given user (if that is possible).

On 23 September 2014 22:52, Tarek Ziadé wrote:

Le 23/09/14 14:51, Todd a écrit :

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What about something like os.path.homedir or os.homedir? You could use, for example, homedir() to get the home directory of the current user, and homedir('username') to get the home directory of a given user (if that is possible).

Sounds way better!

Given the naming of site.getuserbase(), site.getusersite(), and os.expanduser(), a simple "os.userdir()" (to parallel "os.curdir()") may be appropriate. Then making a path that is relative to the user dir absolute would be: abspath = os.path.join(os.userdir(), relpath) While the inverse operation would be: relpath = os.path.relpath(abspath, start=os.userdir()) os.path.expanduser() would then be primarily about dealing with *longer* paths that have "~" embedded, rather than the degenerate case of "os.expanduser('~')". Regards, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

Le 23/09/14 17:50, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :

On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:18:40 +0000 Brett Cannon wrote:

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You probably want to propose a change off of pathlib instead of os.path since that's the future of high-level path manipulation in the stdlib. Speaking of which: http://bugs.python.org/issue19776 http://bugs.python.org/issue19777 oh ok, so I guess http://bugs.python.org/issue19777 is it. - beside the name, and location

Is there anything I can do to help moving this forward ?

Regards

Antoine.

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