Re: [Python-ideas] Please reconsider the Boolean evaluation of midnight
I'm +1 for this idea. It's not about whether the style is good (which its not), but its fundamentally about the fact that it will fix bugs.
Alex Rodrigues writes:
I'm +1 for this idea. It's not about whether the style is good (which its not), but its fundamentally about the fact that it will fix bugs.
It's not about fixing bugs. There are lots of bugs which could be fixed by changing Python behavior. It's about the fact that it almost surely doesn't penalize any correct programs that depend on the existing behavior.
FWIW what *is* the status of this proposal? It feels reasonable to change
this in 3.5. My friend at SourceGraph found no evidence of the behavior
being relied on in real code (it did find the unit test :-). Although I'm
sure he only searched a limited corpus. If someone wants to do a more
thorough search before deciding I can point them to the software needed.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
Alex Rodrigues writes:
I'm +1 for this idea. It's not about whether the style is good (which its not), but its fundamentally about the fact that it will fix bugs.
It's not about fixing bugs. There are lots of bugs which could be fixed by changing Python behavior. It's about the fact that it almost surely doesn't penalize any correct programs that depend on the existing behavior.
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On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Guido van Rossum
FWIW what *is* the status of this proposal? It feels reasonable to change this in 3.5. My friend at SourceGraph found no evidence of the behavior being relied on in real code (it did find the unit test :-). Although I'm sure he only searched a limited corpus. If someone wants to do a more thorough search before deciding I can point them to the software needed.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote: Alex Rodrigues writes: I'm +1 for this idea. It's not about whether the style is good (which its not), but its fundamentally about the fact that it will fix bugs.
It's not about fixing bugs. There are lots of bugs which could be fixed by changing Python behavior. It's about the fact that it almost surely doesn't penalize any correct programs that depend on the existing behavior.
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Right now I think it’s waiting on someone to actually do it. Personally I was waiting on development on 3.5 to open up before I bothered to see if I could figure out how to do this or not :) If someone else gets to it before me all the better though! ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
On 03/18/2014 08:10 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
FWIW what *is* the status of this proposal?
Right now I think it’s waiting on someone to actually do it. Personally I was waiting on development on 3.5 to open up before I bothered to see if I could figure out how to do this or not :)
If someone else gets to it before me all the better though!
It's on my to-do list, but it'll be a couple months before I get to it. Race ya! :) -- ~Ethan~
participants (5)
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Alex Rodrigues
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Donald Stufft
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Ethan Furman
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Guido van Rossum
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Stephen J. Turnbull