Mailman 3 September 1999 - python-uk

First Cambridge Python meeting - it happened
by Tony J. Ibbs (Tibs) Oct. 22, 1999

Oct. 22, 1999

Well, the first Cambridge Python Users meeting happened last night - in the end it was just Eddy, me and a furry snake, but the important thing was to *have* a first meeting. Various things were discussed, starting with bikes and ending with Python (gosh!). The next meeting is planned (hopefully with more people), but I'll leave that to Eddy to explain. I'm not going to try to present minutes or anything, but here are some URLs that relate to some of the topics discussed: * http://www.ginko.de/user/thomaskretschmer/website.htm The direct drive bike (i.e., with gears in the hub that has the pedals on it) * http://www.research.microsoft.com/Users/simonpj/c--.html C--, a project by Simon Peyton Jones * http://www.python.org/doc/essays/cp4e.html The current version of Guido's Computer Programming for Everybody proposal. * http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~greg/python/listcomp/index.html Greg Ewing's patch for Python list comprehensions. * http://starship.python.net/crew/da/idledists/ The directory containing the IDLE snapshot from the CVS tree. * http://www.chaos.org.uk/~eddy/dev/toy/ Eddy's Python project (sort of - I really need to read some of his C code) * http://www.phy.hw.ac.uk/%7ekarsten/M/index.html Mahogany Mail (used to be called "M") which uses Python as its customisation language. * http://starship.python.net/crew/amk/quotations/python-quotes.html AMK's Python quotations -- Tony J Ibbs (Tibs) http://www.tibsnjoan.demon.co.uk/ Feet first with 5 wheels... My views! Mine! Mine! (Unless Laser-Scan ask nicely to borrow them.)

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Re: [Python-uk] Cambridge Python meeting in September?
by Tony J. Ibbs (Tibs) Sept. 29, 1999

Sept. 29, 1999

Edward Welbourne <eddyw(a)lsl.co.uk> wrote: >So, for a preliminary stab at getting something off the ground, how do >folk in Cambridge feel about a meeting next Wednesday (Sept 29th), at >The Wrestlers' on Newmarket Road, say 8pm ? Well, it's possible in theory. And it's best to get started somewhere/somewhen! Generally, Tuesdays are a Bad Idea, and weekends have a lot going for them. If it must be weekdays, a time like 8pm isn't too bad (lets me help with most of the last-thing-at-night kid stuff, and leaves some room before my bedtime) but I would probably often be a little bit late. Newmarket Road is a pain on a bike from our house, and most pubs are a pain for parking my trike, but what the hell, I'm not a pub user generally anyway. Oh - a strong plea for somewhere that is NOT smoky. I know what Eddy looks like (!), so will probably be easiest spotted by my finding him. Otherwise, I'll be the one who owns the recumbent trike I probably won't have brought, and I'm of (what I consider) normal height (Eddy wouldn't), with beard and glasses, so that doesn't help. If you can't *see* Eddy, listen for the guy with the really loud laugh... (now wishing I'd actually bought the 6 foot long furry toy snake from that shop in the Grafton Centre...) Tibs -- Tony J Ibbs (Tibs) http://www.tibsnjoan.demon.co.uk/ Feet first with 5 wheels... My views! Mine! Mine! (Unless Laser-Scan ask nicely to borrow them.)

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Re: [Python-uk] City Python meeting in October?
by Michael Hudson Sept. 23, 1999

Sept. 23, 1999

(item 0: I'm sending this from home, so I apologise in advance for any htmlcrap outlook express inflicts on this mail; do tell me though and I'll hit it a few more times) ---------- >From: Glenn Rogers <glenn(a)gacela.demon.co.uk> >To: python-uk <python-uk(a)server.python.net> >Subject: Re: [Python-uk] City Python meeting in October? >Date: Sat, Sep 11, 1999, 1:28 am > >On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 08:58:17PM +0000, Andy Robinson wrote: >> Evening, all. Having set up this list, I apologize for doing nothing >> for a couple of weeks - summer holiday. Agh! I go on holiday for two weeks and find 500+ messages waiting for me (memo to self: unsubscribe from some mailing lists) >> Would anyone be interested in meeting up in London in the first week >> in October? >> >Not until after 3rd Oct :) I probably won't be able to make that one (it's near the start of term which is always chaotic, plus there are some birthday parties I want to be at -- hard life). >> If so, what would you be looking for? Discuss Python over beers >> informally? Get a meeting room somewhere and a projector and have >> talks before hitting the beers? In Cambridge (hint,hint) there are a couple of pubs that have upstairs/back rooms that we could use to combine both the above... the Maypole certainly does (and is, ooh, about 400 yards from my termtime address) as does I think the Bun Shop (even closer...). >It might be an idea, first of all, to find out more about us. >How many people are even within striking distance of London, especially for >semi-regular meetings? It's an hour on the train - so yes, striking distance. >What do we actually use it for - can we have a real meeting that most of us >won't fall asleep in? > >To start the ball rolling, I'm in West Surrey, so as long as I can catch the >last train to Woking and don't drink :( I can come. And I tend to just do >simple utility-type programs - I don't use python in anger, so to speak. Well, I'm just about to start my third year at Cambridge as a maths undergraduate. I wrote my computational project last year in Python - integrating odes, fiddling with matrices, nothing too complicated. I also use it when bash just gets too tiresome on my Linux machine. As there certainly seem to be a few Cambridge area folks around here, anyone care for a mid-term Python-pint? Yours, Michael

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Re: [Python-uk] Cambridge Python meeting in September?
by Michael Hudson Sept. 22, 1999

Sept. 22, 1999

>> integrating odes > >What a pleasantly poetic twist ;^) ? >Yes, there will be Cambridge meetings - possibly starting some time next >week. Thanks for mentioning back rooms ... May-pole is good ... what >other pubs do you know of with back rooms in Cambridge ? Ideally doing >food as well (since that'll make early evening meetings easier for the >full-time employed among us) and/or with a scribbling board ... Maypole does good food... I'm sure there are others, but I don't know off hand. >For that matter, what'd be our chances of teaming up with a relevant >undergraduate society with access to seminar-equipped rooms ? Precisely no idea, sorry. >So, for a preliminary stab at getting something off the ground, how do >folk in Cambridge feel about a meeting next Wednesday (Sept 29th), at >The Wrestlers' on Newmarket Road, say 8pm ? Please comment, in >responses, on capacity to cope with other days of the week. Yes, I've >made arbitrary choices here, in hopes of getting enough of us gathered >over a pint to have a thorough discussion of places/times for future >moots. So primarily a planning meeting, but I hope we can all have fun >discussing interesting stuff too ;^) Wednesdays at 8pm at the Wrestlers' (don't know where it is, but can find it I guess) are fine in principle, but not the next one, because term hasn't started by then and I won't be in Cambridge. As to other evenings, I have no particular constraints, except that midweek is probably better than weekend. >I have a hat, such dark blue you might call it black, trilby-like in >shape. I am tall, bespectacled and long-haired. That should leave you >with only about half a dozen folk to ask ;^> If you have anything nice >and obvious like a python to bring with you, you can act as our >standard-bearer and the rest of us will find you. I am not particularly tall, hove no remarkably distinguishing features, can be bespectacled or not upon request - and wont be there ;-(. Some other time? Regards, Michael

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RE: [Python-uk] City Python meeting in October?
by Alex.Thomas＠dresdnerkb.com Sept. 14, 1999

Sept. 14, 1999

Sure, didn't mean to muddy the water, you go ahead with the Louise - upstairs or down? alex (who used to quite like real ale but is in pilsland) NB In the following statement the word 'not' was accidentally omitted from all verb phrases, please amend accordingly ########################################## This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you have received this email in error you may not copy or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender on the number printed above, via the Dresdner Kleinwort Benson switchboard on +44 171 623 8000 or via e-mail return. Internet communications are not secure unless protected using strong cryptography. This email has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate, but Dresdner Kleinwort Benson makes no warranty as to accuracy or completeness. In particular Dresdner Kleinwort Benson does not accept responsibility for changes made to this email after it was sent. Any opinions expressed in this document are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Bank or its affiliates. They may be subject to change without notice. ##########################################

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RE: [Python-uk] City Python meeting in October?
by Alex.Thomas＠dresdnerkb.com Sept. 14, 1999

Sept. 14, 1999

At this point I shall stop lurking and announce that I too live in Richmond (well, East Twickenham :-) ), the only problem being that I spend most of the week working in Frankfurt. This is for Kleinwort Benson, who are part of Dresdner Bank. Work is mostly Java, EJBs and other non-python activities though I can't shake off the feeling that (J)Python has a role in this area. Also we use Zope to as a sort of knowledge base. Before this, I worked for ICL on their ORB, and have a modest claim to fame in contributing to the key OMG specs. I know the Princess Louise, but it's a bit crowded - why don't we get them down to Henry's Bar or something James? :-) cheers alex > -----Original Message----- > From: James Cooley [mailto:james.cooley@trustbase.com] > Sent: 13 September 1999 15:14 > To: Edward Welbourne; python-uk(a)server.python.net > Subject: Re: [Python-uk] City Python meeting in October? > > > > > Andy said > > Discuss Python over beers informally? Get a meeting room somewhere > > and a projector and have talks before hitting the beers? > > Sounds good. Anytime in October suits me. > > Glenn said: > > It might be an idea, first of all, to find out more about us. > > I'm living in Richmond and working near Farringdon. I have written > quite a few utility scripts in Python over the last couple of years. > Nothing worth releasing for general consumption though :( > > I'm working for a crypto company, working in Java. I use JPython > at work to work out designs and do preliminary implementations before > committing to more the less dynamic Java for production code. > > Looking forward to seeing what comes of this list. I would > like to Guido > and some other heavyweights in London for a talk. Also I'm > not averse to > a few pints ... > > James > > PS. > > Top Signs You Are a Londoner > 1. You say "the city" and expect everyone to know which one. > > > -- > James Cooley [+44 (0)171-6896924] > JCP Computer Services, 16 St Johns Lane, London, EC1M 4BS, UK. > PGP Key ID : 0x28CA7769 > fingerprint: A39D 1357 89EF 3707 2D62 050B 6AA1 4D03 28CA 7769 > > _______________________________________________ > Python-uk maillist - Python-uk(a)starship.python.net > http://starship.python.net/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > ########################################## This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you have received this email in error you may not copy or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender on the number printed above, via the Dresdner Kleinwort Benson switchboard on +44 171 623 8000 or via e-mail return. Internet communications are not secure unless protected using strong cryptography. This email has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate, but Dresdner Kleinwort Benson makes no warranty as to accuracy or completeness. In particular Dresdner Kleinwort Benson does not accept responsibility for changes made to this email after it was sent. Any opinions expressed in this document are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Bank or its affiliates. They may be subject to change without notice. ##########################################

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Re: [Python-uk] City Python meeting in October?
by Andy Robinson Sept. 14, 1999

Sept. 14, 1999

--- James Cooley <jcooley(a)python.net> wrote: > How about > > Princess Louise > (Vaux free house) > Bloombury > 208 High Holborn St. > 0171-405-8816 > Holborn Station, Central/Picidilly Lines > Remarks: A big place with a comfortable look and > feel. A good selection of > ales, as well, Sounds fine. Monday 4th, after work? I'm in Surrey so will probably arrive between 18:00-18:30, but don't let that stop anyone. I will be wearing a grey O'Reilly baseball cap, and carrying any Python paraphernalia I can find. (tip: for the truly brave, Early Learning Centre has giant rubber pythons, quite pricey but highly realistic). -Andy === Andy Robinson Robinson Analytics Ltd. ------------------ My opinions are the official policy of Robinson Analytics Ltd. They just vary from day to day. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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UK events and O'Reilly
by andy＠robanal.demon.co.uk Sept. 14, 1999

Sept. 14, 1999

time to get my vested interest out in the open. As a consultant.contractor and co-author of the forthcoming "Python Programming for Win32", my employment opportunities are going to be closely linked to Python's take-up by companies in the UK. I fully appreciate that some enjoy Python as a hobby, but others would love to work at it full time, so I'm doing more serious stuff than pub crawls. But I need help... I am meeting Josette Garcia, who runs O'Reilly's UK office, on Tuesday 5th October to discuss how to promote Python in the UK. I would welcome any ideas on promoting Python here - e.g. conferences we could piggyback a Python track onto. O'Reilly are not short of cash and might be able to help if we had focussed suggestions. Cambridge could be a great venue for a Python conference next year (hint, hint). Also does anyone fancy writing an article or two for some of the UK computer press? Having just spent several months on a full-sized book, I can tell you that it is not too tough and great fun, and would help out with reading through. Regards, Andy

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City Python meeting in October?
by andy＠robanal.demon.co.uk Sept. 14, 1999

Sept. 14, 1999

Evening, all. Having set up this list, I apologize for doing nothing for a couple of weeks - summer holiday. Would anyone be interested in meeting up in London in the first week in October? If so, what would you be looking for? Discuss Python over beers informally? Get a meeting room somewhere and a projector and have talks before hitting the beers? Also any other ideas for low-key events, such as conferences we could tack a track onto? I think I may have a sponsor for small events, but need a concrete proposal to take to them. There is a strong chance of getting a free room in the city for a meeting on a regular basis. Regards, Andy Robinson

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Re: City Python meeting in October?
by Dave Kirby Sept. 13, 1999

Sept. 13, 1999

Andy Robinson said: > > Would anyone be interested in meeting up in London in the first week > in October? I would be up for it, depending on my other commitments at the time. I am a software engineer in Hemel Hempstead, working for a major network hardware company. I discovered python a couple of years ago and spent many a happy hour playing around at home, and have now managed to introduce it in my current project at work in the form of JPython, since most of the project is being done in Java, and CPython + win32 extensions for other utilities. Off topic, does anyone know of companies doing python training & support in the UK? Is there anyone from PythonPros on the mailing list? I vaguely remember talk of them setting up a uk/europe branch, but cant find any mention of it on their website. Dave Kirby

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