Mark Roseman (author of Modern Tkinter for Busy Python Developers) has been doing a lot of changes to the IDLE code base along the lines of the "IDLE Reimagined" project. His email to the idle-dev list this morning:

As I’ve been working on IDLE improvements, I’ve been keeping a running snapshot of my current version here: https://github.com/roseman/idle

As of now, this includes:

• tabbed shell/editor windows
• incorporate ttk into various places when available
• new redesigned ttk-based, modeless preferences/options window
• new redesigned, modeless about window
• new modeless rich-text 'idle help' window
• redesigned 'ask' modal dialogs (e.g. go to line, open module, etc.)
• cosmetic tweaks to editor window, status bar, etc.
• fix positioning of several yes/no/cancel etc. type of dialogs
• fix windows not showing text found via dialogs until dialogs closed
• fix calltips not working on mac
• fix debugger and editor context menus not working on mac

One note, in order to be able to run this code, I had to do a "git clone" and then rename the main "idle" folder to "idlelib" and then change directory in a terminal to the parent folder, then run "python -m idlelib". I temporarily changed the line in PyShell.py "shell_title = "Python " + python_version() + " Shell"" to something else just so I could be sure I was running Mark's code instead of the IDLE in the standard library.

-Al

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Carrie Anne Philbin < carrieanne@raspberrypi.org> wrote:

I don't think we should assign age to this project. I think learners at whatever age have problems with accessing IDEs.

CA.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Floyd, Steven sfloyd@office.ldcsb.on.ca wrote:

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Puppy looks very cool. Simple, clean. One click startup would be good too, instead of opening of a shell then clicking New File...Both windows should load right away.

Add the user-friendly error messages mentioned by Alex Bradbury and I think it would be fantastic and useful for young learn Potential problems: -who is the editor for, will it be all things for all people? Should we identify a target group (age 8-14, beginner programmers, perhaps?)

Cool project. Glad to be on this list.

Steve

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*From:* Pythonedu-wg on behalf of Bob Irving bobirv@gmail.com *Sent:* September 21, 2015 10:11 AM *To:* Carrie Anne Philbin *Cc:* pythonedu-wg@python.org *Subject:* Re: [Pythonedu-wg] A new, kid-friendly Python editor

This is really exciting!

I'm a teacher in the US, just starting this year with Python in different iterations (MinecraftPi, Pygame). I'm not a developer so making the editor is beyond me. But I definitely have some thoughts on what would and wouldn't work for the students I'm teaching (ages 13-15).

Bob Irving Porter-Gaud School Charleston, SC USA

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Carrie Anne Philbin < carrieanne@raspberrypi.org> wrote:

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Hi,

I would like to initiate work on building an education friendly python editor to potentially replace IDLE and be part of an education bundle available across multiple platforms (including relatively low-specced systems such as the Raspberry Pi) through this work group.

To kick off, here’s a list of possible requirements. Please feel free to comment and add to them:

*Absolutely must have*:

• Both windows open within one application (the shell window and text editor window).

• Simple buttons to run code

• A way to change font sizes easily

• Syntax highlighting

*Highly desired*:

• Error reporting that highlights lines and gives a good level of feedback to the user.

• REPL

• Projects

Since my talk around the development of a new text editor at Euro Python https://youtu.be/_gU7sfTrz4c in July and Pycon Australia in August, community members Ntoll (Nicholas Tollervey), Lord Mauve (Daniel Pope), and others have begun work on an open source project called Puppy https://github.com/lordmauve/puppy. Here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXfzfZzq1dc of Puppy but I believe that more has been added and/or removed since it was filmed. I think this project could be what we are looking for and we would welcome the thoughts of the wg.

Thanks,

Carrie Anne

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