Thank you, that makes sense.

Your link does not explain why float images are restricted to [-1; 1] though? So with my data I can't just do:

image = np.array(data.coins(), dtype=np.float)

I guess skimage makes an assumption that images are within a fixed range?

Best,

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**Objet :** Re: [scikit-image] Observed difference between skimage.filters.rank.mean and scipy.signal.convolve2d

On 2 Nov 2017, 7:54 PM +1100, Poughon Victor <Victor.Poughon@cnes.fr>, wrote:

Your link does not explain why float images are restricted to [-1; 1] though? So with my data I can't just do:

image = np.array(data.coins(), dtype=np.float)

I guess skimage makes an assumption that images are within a fixed range?

Best,

Victor Poughon

Hi Victor,

The biggest problem is that you’re getting bitten by datatypes. Please read the following document:

Specifically, rank_mean is a uint8 image, so only contains integers between 0 and 255. naive_convolve is a float image, with continuous values between 0 and 255. Try this:

In [17]: naive_convolve_float = naive_convolve / 255

In [18]: rank_mean_float = rank_mean / 255

In [19]: plt.imshow(np.abs(naive_convolve_float - rank_mean_float), cmap='magma')

Out[19]: <matplotlib.image.AxesImage at 0x10d098fd0>

Result:

There is a smaller difference also. Internally, filters.rank uses a fancy rolling histogram algorithm with integer data values. This means that the result of the rank_mean is only approximately accurate, essentially to within integer rounding (good enough
for most real-world uses), while the convolve2d code gives you an exact value (to within floating point error).

Hope this helps!

Juan.

On 2 Nov 2017, 7:54 PM +1100, Poughon Victor <Victor.Poughon@cnes.fr>, wrote:

Hello,

I looks like skimage.filters.rank.mean and scipy.signal.convolve2d don't output exactly the same images. When doing:

image = data.coins()

K = np.ones((11, 11))

rank_mean = rank.mean(image, selem=K)

naive_convolve = convolve2d(image, K, mode="same") / K.sum()

All output pixel are different, with an absolute difference varying randomly between 0 and 1. Of course there's also a massive difference at the border, but that's expected because convolve2d treats image boundaries differently. But even in the center of the image all pixels are different. I've made a test script with an illustrated output image, you can check it out in this gist:

https://gist.github.com/vpoughon/b4afc76ce5dc681fda9d0550d41359d3

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,

Victor Poughon

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