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Please make the wiki available again. I need its page "NumPy_for_Matlab_Users" for a workshop with my colleagues. Best regards, Robert Pollak
I confirm this. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Robert Pollak <robert.pollak@jku.at> wrote:
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Please make the wiki available again. I need its page "NumPy_for_Matlab_Users" for a workshop with my colleagues.
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Robert Pollak <robert.pollak@jku.at> wrote:
Dear server administrator,
since several days, the website http://wiki.scipy.org/ only shows:
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The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator at root@enthought.com to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error.
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Please make the wiki available again. I need its page "NumPy_for_Matlab_Users" for a workshop with my colleagues.
My understanding is that someone is working on this, but that it requires upgrading the wiki data from MoinMoin 1.5 (released in 2006) to the current version, and that this is being a challenge, so it'll be up again as soon as possible. My understanding is also that once the immediate fires are put out, there will be some discussion about how to arrange matters so that such issues don't arise so often and are handled in a more publicly transparent way... -n
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Robert Pollak <robert.pollak@jku.at>
wrote:
Please make the wiki available again. I need its page "NumPy_for_Matlab_Users" for a workshop with my colleagues.
My understanding is that someone is working on this, but that it requires upgrading the wiki data from MoinMoin 1.5 (released in 2006) to the current version, and that this is being a challenge, so it'll be up again as soon as possible.
My understanding is also that once the immediate fires are put out, there will be some discussion about how to arrange matters so that such issues don't arise so often and are handled in a more publicly transparent way...
The long term solution is, and has always been, obvious. We have a static website. The effort to move the wiki's content to the static website stopped halfway through, leaving content that is valuable to some people still on the wiki. Anyone still interested in the remaining content needs to step up and move it to the static website. Here is the dump. Go forth and convert! https://www.dropbox.com/s/54r9ug6bzbsjxdb/scipy-wiki-dump.tbz2?dl=0 -- Robert Kern
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Robert Pollak <robert.pollak@jku.at> wrote:
Please make the wiki available again. I need its page "NumPy_for_Matlab_Users" for a workshop with my colleagues.
My understanding is that someone is working on this, but that it requires upgrading the wiki data from MoinMoin 1.5 (released in 2006) to the current version, and that this is being a challenge, so it'll be up again as soon as possible.
My understanding is also that once the immediate fires are put out, there will be some discussion about how to arrange matters so that such issues don't arise so often and are handled in a more publicly transparent way...
The long term solution is, and has always been, obvious. We have a static website. The effort to move the wiki's content to the static website stopped halfway through, leaving content that is valuable to some people still on the wiki. Anyone still interested in the remaining content needs to step up and move it to the static website.
Yeah, the wiki was terribly out of date and probably needs to just die (is there anything there that's still relevant aside from the "for matlab users" page?), but there is a meta problem that is zero^Wepsilon communication between the people maintaining the infrastructure and the rest of us, so we stumble forward as best we can :-).
Here is the dump. Go forth and convert!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54r9ug6bzbsjxdb/scipy-wiki-dump.tbz2?dl=0
It would be super helpful if you could also say a few words about what to do with these pages once they are downloaded. Are you suggesting they go into scipy's sphinx docs, or into some other static website build somewhere? I don't actually know where the source to scipy.org is stored... -n
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>
wrote:
Here is the dump. Go forth and convert!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54r9ug6bzbsjxdb/scipy-wiki-dump.tbz2?dl=0
It would be super helpful if you could also say a few words about what to do with these pages once they are downloaded. Are you suggesting they go into scipy's sphinx docs, or into some other static website build somewhere? I don't actually know where the source to scipy.org is stored...
https://github.com/scipy/scipy.org -- Robert Kern
Nathaniel Smith <njs <at> pobox.com> writes: [clip]
Yeah, the wiki was terribly out of date and probably needs to just die (is there anything there that's still relevant aside from the "for matlab users" page?), but there is a meta problem that is zero^Wepsilon communication between the people maintaining the infrastructure and the rest of us, so we stumble forward as best we can .
The wiki dump is available (and links to it have been also before on this list years ago), the static website is on github, so there should be no blockers to this.
Here is the dump. Go forth and convert!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54r9ug6bzbsjxdb/scipy-wiki-dump.tbz2?dl=0
It would be super helpful if you could also say a few words about what to do with these pages once they are downloaded. Are you suggesting they go into scipy's sphinx docs, or into some other static website build somewhere? I don't actually know where the source to scipy.org is stored...
What to do with the old wiki content is up to discussion. I don't think anyone has a plan on what parts of it is still of value, what not, and whether a wiki would still be useful. Previous discussions of this matter as a rule have just fizzled out, probably because there are more interesting things to do. When the scipy.org site was set up three years ago (see previous posts on this list), I moved only the content having directly to do with the software. The fate of scipy cookbook has also been discussed before on this list, and its conversion to ipython notebooks was also done, see links in previous posts. However, the bitrot is great, and new tools for doing things in a better way appeared, so much of the content is outdated. The "numpy for matlab users" was probably one of the valuable extra pages. I have no recollection of what else was there, but that should be visible in the dump.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Pauli Virtanen <pav@iki.fi> wrote:
Nathaniel Smith <njs <at> pobox.com> writes: [clip]
Yeah, the wiki was terribly out of date and probably needs to just die (is there anything there that's still relevant aside from the "for matlab users" page?), but there is a meta problem that is zero^Wepsilon communication between the people maintaining the infrastructure and the rest of us, so we stumble forward as best we can .
The wiki dump is available (and links to it have been also before on this list years ago), the static website is on github, so there should be no blockers to this.
Here is the dump. Go forth and convert!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54r9ug6bzbsjxdb/scipy-wiki-dump.tbz2?dl=0
It would be super helpful if you could also say a few words about what to do with these pages once they are downloaded. Are you suggesting they go into scipy's sphinx docs, or into some other static website build somewhere? I don't actually know where the source to scipy.org is stored...
What to do with the old wiki content is up to discussion. I don't think anyone has a plan on what parts of it is still of value, what not, and whether a wiki would still be useful.
Previous discussions of this matter as a rule have just fizzled out, probably because there are more interesting things to do.
When the scipy.org site was set up three years ago (see previous posts on this list), I moved only the content having directly to do with the software.
The fate of scipy cookbook has also been discussed before on this list, and its conversion to ipython notebooks was also done, see links in previous posts. However, the bitrot is great, and new tools for doing things in a better way appeared, so much of the content is outdated.
The "numpy for matlab users" was probably one of the valuable extra pages. I have no recollection of what else was there, but that should be visible in the dump.
The "numpy for matlab users" page is probably more useful to people than everything else on that wiki combined.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Pauli Virtanen <pav@iki.fi> wrote:
Nathaniel Smith <njs <at> pobox.com> writes: [clip]
Yeah, the wiki was terribly out of date and probably needs to just die (is there anything there that's still relevant aside from the "for matlab users" page?), but there is a meta problem that is zero^Wepsilon communication between the people maintaining the infrastructure and the rest of us, so we stumble forward as best we can .
The wiki dump is available (and links to it have been also before on this list years ago), the static website is on github, so there should be no blockers to this.
Here is the dump. Go forth and convert!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54r9ug6bzbsjxdb/scipy-wiki-dump.tbz2?dl=0
It would be super helpful if you could also say a few words about what to do with these pages once they are downloaded. Are you suggesting they go into scipy's sphinx docs, or into some other static website build somewhere? I don't actually know where the source to scipy.org is stored...
I don't think any content from the wiki belongs in the scipy.org repo.
What to do with the old wiki content is up to discussion. I don't think anyone has a plan on what parts of it is still of value, what not, and whether a wiki would still be useful.
Previous discussions of this matter as a rule have just fizzled out, probably because there are more interesting things to do.
When the scipy.org site was set up three years ago (see previous posts on this list), I moved only the content having directly to do with the software.
The fate of scipy cookbook has also been discussed before on this list, and its conversion to ipython notebooks was also done, see links in previous posts. However, the bitrot is great, and new tools for doing things in a better way appeared, so much of the content is outdated.
The "numpy for matlab users" was probably one of the valuable extra pages. I have no recollection of what else was there, but that should be visible in the dump.
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The "numpy for matlab users" page is probably more useful to people than everything else on that wiki combined.
How about converting that page to ReST and putting it in the scipy tutorial (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/index.html)? Ralf
Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers <at> gmail.com> writes: [clip]
The "numpy for matlab users" page is probably more useful to people than everything else on that wiki combined.
FWIW, here's the content in a slightly friendlier format http://pav.iki.fi/tmp/to-be-removed/localhost_8080/AllPages.html
On 24.10.2015 21:06, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers <at> gmail.com> writes: [clip]
The "numpy for matlab users" page is probably more useful to people than everything else on that wiki combined.
FWIW, here's the content in a slightly friendlier format
http://pav.iki.fi/tmp/to-be-removed/localhost_8080/AllPages.html
Thank you! I just wanted to suggest to change http://wiki.scipy.org/robots.txt such that archived versions like https://web.archive.org/web/20140926023421/http://wiki.scipy.org/NumPy_for_M... can be displayed. Robert P.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Robert Pollak <robert.pollak@jku.at> wrote:
On 24.10.2015 21:06, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers <at> gmail.com> writes: [clip]
The "numpy for matlab users" page is probably more useful to people than everything else on that wiki combined.
FWIW, here's the content in a slightly friendlier format
http://pav.iki.fi/tmp/to-be-removed/localhost_8080/AllPages.html
Thank you! I just wanted to suggest to change http://wiki.scipy.org/robots.txt such that archived versions like
https://web.archive.org/web/20140926023421/http://wiki.scipy.org/NumPy_for_M...
can be displayed.
We will add redirects when the converted pages have permanent homes. -- Robert Kern
Robert Pollak <robert.pollak <at> jku.at> writes: [clip]
Thank you! I just wanted to suggest to change http://wiki.scipy.org/robots.txt such that archived versions like
https://web.archive.org/web/20140926023421/http://wiki.scipy.org/NumPy_for_M...
can be displayed.
In the case of this specific page, you can refer to this instead: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/blob/master/doc/sour ce/user/numpy-for-matlab-users.rst
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Pauli Virtanen <pav@iki.fi> wrote:
Robert Pollak <robert.pollak <at> jku.at> writes:
[clip]
Thank you! I just wanted to suggest to change http://wiki.scipy.org/robots.txt such that archived versions like
https://web.archive.org/web/20140926023421/http://wiki.scipy.org/NumPy_for_M...
can be displayed.
In the case of this specific page, you can refer to this instead:
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/blob/master/doc/sour ce/user/numpy-for-matlab-users.rst
How long until this propagates to the generated docs on docs.scipy.org? -- Robert Kern
Robert Kern <robert.kern <at> gmail.com> writes: [clip]
How long until this propagates to the generated docs on docs.scipy.org?
There's no automation AFAIK for Numpy, so the answer is: In 1.11.0 release, or when someone rebuilds and uploads the numpy dev docs (last occurrence seems 18 Oct 2015). Automating it via Travis-CI would be fairly easy, cf. https://github.com/scipy/scipy/pull/5383
On 2015-10-27 11:53, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
Robert Kern <robert.kern <at> gmail.com> writes: [clip]
How long until this propagates to the generated docs on docs.scipy.org?
There's no automation AFAIK for Numpy, so the answer is: In 1.11.0 release, or when someone rebuilds and uploads the numpy dev docs (last occurrence seems 18 Oct 2015).
It would help my workshop if someone could do this before 4 Nov :)
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Robert Pollak <robert.pollak@jku.at> wrote:
On 2015-10-27 11:53, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
Robert Kern <robert.kern <at> gmail.com> writes: [clip]
How long until this propagates to the generated docs on docs.scipy.org?
There's no automation AFAIK for Numpy, so the answer is: In 1.11.0 release, or when someone rebuilds and uploads the numpy dev docs (last occurrence seems 18 Oct 2015).
It would help my workshop if someone could do this before 4 Nov :)
It's up: http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy-dev/user/numpy-for-matlab-users.html Thanks to Pauli I believe. Ralf
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