I want to do some translation about the SciPy Reference Guide
Hi guys I am a Chinese postgraduate student in the Australian National University. And I am using SciPy to develop some machine learning algorithms. But I found I could not use classes and functions smoothly, because I often encountered many technical and mathematical words which I could understand in Chinese but couldn’t in English. So I was often interrupted when I was thinking, which was quite annoying. So I guess it is absolutely a major stumbling block for other Chinese students to use SciPy. You can’t expect them to learn English well as well as mathematics. So I want to translate the SciPy Reference Guide into Chinese. Is it ok? Can you give me some advice or some help?
Hi, On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, 江大伟 <zw4131@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys I am a Chinese postgraduate student in the Australian National University. And I am using SciPy to develop some machine learning algorithms. But I found I could not use classes and functions smoothly, because I often encountered many technical and mathematical words which I could understand in Chinese but couldn’t in English. So I was often interrupted when I was thinking, which was quite annoying. So I guess it is absolutely a major stumbling block for other Chinese students to use SciPy. You can’t expect them to learn English well as well as mathematics. So I want to translate the SciPy Reference Guide into Chinese. Is it ok? Can you give me some advice or some help?
It would be great to have more accessible documentation for Chinese speakers. I would suggest a translation of the first part of the Scipy Reference Guide, the tutorial (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/index.html). The rest of the Reference Guide is autogenerated from docstrings, which I don't think is feasible to translate for several reasons (no toolchain support, not maintainable, too much work). We could distribute the tutorial separately from the rest of the reference guide, this is done for Numpy too. You can find the sources for the tutorial under doc/source/tutorial/. If you think this is the right way to go, it should be easy to jump in. Cheers, Ralf
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@googlemail.com>wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, 江大伟 <zw4131@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys I am a Chinese postgraduate student in the Australian National University. And I am using SciPy to develop some machine learning algorithms. But I found I could not use classes and functions smoothly, because I often encountered many technical and mathematical words which I could understand in Chinese but couldn’t in English. So I was often interrupted when I was thinking, which was quite annoying. So I guess it is absolutely a major stumbling block for other Chinese students to use SciPy. You can’t expect them to learn English well as well as mathematics. So I want to translate the SciPy Reference Guide into Chinese. Is it ok? Can you give me some advice or some help?
It would be great to have more accessible documentation for Chinese speakers. I would suggest a translation of the first part of the Scipy Reference Guide, the tutorial (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/index.html). The rest of the Reference Guide is autogenerated from docstrings, which I don't think is feasible to translate for several reasons (no toolchain support, not maintainable, too much work). We could distribute the tutorial separately from the rest of the reference guide, this is done for Numpy too.
You can find the sources for the tutorial under doc/source/tutorial/. If you think this is the right way to go, it should be easy to jump in.
Is the documentation copyrighted? If not, should it be? Chuck
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, 江大伟 <zw4131@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys I am a Chinese postgraduate student in the Australian National University. And I am using SciPy to develop some machine learning algorithms. But I found I could not use classes and functions smoothly, because I often encountered many technical and mathematical words which I could understand in Chinese but couldn’t in English. So I was often interrupted when I was thinking, which was quite annoying. So I guess it is absolutely a major stumbling block for other Chinese students to use SciPy. You can’t expect them to learn English well as well as mathematics. So I want to translate the SciPy Reference Guide into Chinese. Is it ok? Can you give me some advice or some help?
It would be great to have more accessible documentation for Chinese speakers. I would suggest a translation of the first part of the Scipy Reference Guide, the tutorial (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/index.html). The rest of the Reference Guide is autogenerated from docstrings, which I don't think is feasible to translate for several reasons (no toolchain support, not maintainable, too much work). We could distribute the tutorial separately from the rest of the reference guide, this is done for Numpy too.
You can find the sources for the tutorial under doc/source/tutorial/. If you think this is the right way to go, it should be easy to jump in.
Is the documentation copyrighted? If not, should it be?
For the BSD license that's not very clear, at least I can't find a clear explanation anywhere. Several other license include documentation explicitly, for example the MIT license starts: "Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software")". I'd guess the docs in the source tree are covered by the BSD license, but IANAL. Ralf
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 09:26, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, 江大伟 <zw4131@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys I am a Chinese postgraduate student in the Australian National University. And I am using SciPy to develop some machine learning algorithms. But I found I could not use classes and functions smoothly, because I often encountered many technical and mathematical words which I could understand in Chinese but couldn’t in English. So I was often interrupted when I was thinking, which was quite annoying. So I guess it is absolutely a major stumbling block for other Chinese students to use SciPy. You can’t expect them to learn English well as well as mathematics. So I want to translate the SciPy Reference Guide into Chinese. Is it ok? Can you give me some advice or some help?
It would be great to have more accessible documentation for Chinese speakers. I would suggest a translation of the first part of the Scipy Reference Guide, the tutorial (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/index.html). The rest of the Reference Guide is autogenerated from docstrings, which I don't think is feasible to translate for several reasons (no toolchain support, not maintainable, too much work). We could distribute the tutorial separately from the rest of the reference guide, this is done for Numpy too.
You can find the sources for the tutorial under doc/source/tutorial/. If you think this is the right way to go, it should be easy to jump in.
Is the documentation copyrighted? If not, should it be?
Everything is copyrighted, by the Berne Convention. Everything in the numpy distribution, source code and documentation alike (not least because most of it is *in* the code), is under the BSD license except for certain exceptions noted in individual files. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 09:26, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, 江大伟 <zw4131@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys I am a Chinese postgraduate student in the Australian National University. And I am using SciPy to develop some machine learning algorithms. But I found I could not use classes and functions smoothly, because I often encountered many technical and mathematical words which I could understand in Chinese but couldn’t in English. So I was often interrupted when I was thinking, which was quite annoying. So I guess it is absolutely a major stumbling block for other Chinese students to use SciPy. You can’t expect them to learn English well as well as mathematics. So I want to translate the SciPy Reference Guide into Chinese. Is it ok? Can you give me some advice or some help?
It would be great to have more accessible documentation for Chinese speakers. I would suggest a translation of the first part of the Scipy Reference Guide, the tutorial (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/index.html). The rest of the Reference Guide is autogenerated from docstrings, which I don't think is feasible to translate for several reasons (no toolchain support, not maintainable, too much work). We could distribute the tutorial separately from the rest of the reference guide, this is done for Numpy too.
You can find the sources for the tutorial under doc/source/tutorial/. If you think this is the right way to go, it should be easy to jump in.
Is the documentation copyrighted? If not, should it be?
Everything is copyrighted, by the Berne Convention. Everything in the numpy distribution, source code and documentation alike (not least because most of it is *in* the code), is under the BSD license except for certain exceptions noted in individual files.
To follow Ralf's look at the details of BSD "Redistribution and use in source and binary forms" does not include printed form, nor other processed sphinx docs (html, pdf, ...) So it's not clear (to me) what usage the BSD license allows for the documentation, i.e. processed rst files and sphinx docs. Josef
-- Robert Kern
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On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 14:41, <josef.pktd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 09:26, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, 江大伟 <zw4131@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys I am a Chinese postgraduate student in the Australian National University. And I am using SciPy to develop some machine learning algorithms. But I found I could not use classes and functions smoothly, because I often encountered many technical and mathematical words which I could understand in Chinese but couldn’t in English. So I was often interrupted when I was thinking, which was quite annoying. So I guess it is absolutely a major stumbling block for other Chinese students to use SciPy. You can’t expect them to learn English well as well as mathematics. So I want to translate the SciPy Reference Guide into Chinese. Is it ok? Can you give me some advice or some help?
It would be great to have more accessible documentation for Chinese speakers. I would suggest a translation of the first part of the Scipy Reference Guide, the tutorial (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/tutorial/index.html). The rest of the Reference Guide is autogenerated from docstrings, which I don't think is feasible to translate for several reasons (no toolchain support, not maintainable, too much work). We could distribute the tutorial separately from the rest of the reference guide, this is done for Numpy too.
You can find the sources for the tutorial under doc/source/tutorial/. If you think this is the right way to go, it should be easy to jump in.
Is the documentation copyrighted? If not, should it be?
Everything is copyrighted, by the Berne Convention. Everything in the numpy distribution, source code and documentation alike (not least because most of it is *in* the code), is under the BSD license except for certain exceptions noted in individual files.
To follow Ralf's look at the details of BSD
"Redistribution and use in source and binary forms" does not include printed form, nor other processed sphinx docs (html, pdf, ...)
Yes, it does. No, it's not as explicit as it could be, but it does. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco
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