Re: [SciPy-Dev] SciPy.org Website Move and Redesign
I kind of dropped the ball on this as I have been traveling for the past month. I think we are ready to move forward on this and at least get the pieces in place. I am still not clear exactly what the current status of the scipy.org-new and scipy.github.com repos on github are. Can anyone speak to this? On a related topic, I have been searching out someone who may be able to do some redesign work on the site but was not successful (at least a free option). Any suggestions for someone with some design experience that could update the look of the site a bit please let us know. Kyle On Friday, August 24, 2012 at 10:00 AM, scipy-dev-request@scipy.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Fernando Perez <fperez.net@gmail.com (mailto:fperez.net@gmail.com)> wrote:
And precisely having the site moved over to a system where:
- it's trivial to delegate website work to a separate team who can collaborate with the regular github flow (branches, PRs, etc) to manage the web content.
- form and content are separated, with templates and CSS for all formal display
Is this transition still on track? We should push it through, even if it means living with a slightly outdated website for a week or two. (I'm sure we'll all feel much more comfortable updating the web site using PRs than whatever the current mechanism might be.)
St?fan
Kyle Mandli <kyle.mandli <at> gmail.com> writes:
I kind of dropped the ball on this as I have been traveling for the past month. I think we are ready to move forward on this and at least get the pieces in place. I am still not clear exactly what the current status of the scipy.org-new and scipy.github.com repos on github are. Can anyone speak to this?
The status of scipy.org-new repository is that it is incomplete, but future work should build on it, as it has some basic infrastructure in place. (The conference/ directory in that repo can be ignored/removed, as I believe it is outdated.) The scipy.github.com contains the HTML output built from scipy.org-new.
On a related topic, I have been searching out someone who may be able to do some redesign work on the site but was not successful (at least a free option). Any suggestions for someone with some design experience that could update the look of the site a bit please let us know.
Well, the only requirement is that it should look better and more organized than the current scipy.org page. That probably does not require 1337 design chops, just some CSS/HTML skills :) Also, somehow the typography on scipy.github.com is off, the text looks ugly and is difficult to read. The main point IMO is just to come up with some visual consistency and navigation scheme between the main site, the documentation, etc. This doesn't have to be perfect, the main thing is just to think up some sort of a consistent framework. The second thing related to content would be to think what to do with the different Scipys: - "Scipy the community site" - "Scipy the library" Well, anyway, the above is just my suggestion on what could be done. If you can think of some other ways to improve the situation, please don't let this hold you up. -- Pauli Virtanen
If that may help, here are some tentative images/logos: http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.png http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.svg Nicolas On Aug 29, 2012, at 20:58 , Pauli Virtanen wrote:
Kyle Mandli <kyle.mandli <at> gmail.com> writes:
I kind of dropped the ball on this as I have been traveling for the past month. I think we are ready to move forward on this and at least get the pieces in place. I am still not clear exactly what the current status of the scipy.org-new and scipy.github.com repos on github are. Can anyone speak to this?
The status of scipy.org-new repository is that it is incomplete, but future work should build on it, as it has some basic infrastructure in place. (The conference/ directory in that repo can be ignored/removed, as I believe it is outdated.)
The scipy.github.com contains the HTML output built from scipy.org-new.
On a related topic, I have been searching out someone who may be able to do some redesign work on the site but was not successful (at least a free option). Any suggestions for someone with some design experience that could update the look of the site a bit please let us know.
Well, the only requirement is that it should look better and more organized than the current scipy.org page. That probably does not require 1337 design chops, just some CSS/HTML skills :)
Also, somehow the typography on scipy.github.com is off, the text looks ugly and is difficult to read.
The main point IMO is just to come up with some visual consistency and navigation scheme between the main site, the documentation, etc. This doesn't have to be perfect, the main thing is just to think up some sort of a consistent framework.
The second thing related to content would be to think what to do with the different Scipys:
- "Scipy the community site" - "Scipy the library"
Well, anyway, the above is just my suggestion on what could be done. If you can think of some other ways to improve the situation, please don't let this hold you up.
-- Pauli Virtanen
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Nicolas Rougier <Nicolas.Rougier@inria.fr> wrote:
If that may help, here are some tentative images/logos:
http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.png http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.svg
FWIW, I like a lot the two central ones in the bottom row, thanks!
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:21:53PM -0700, Fernando Perez wrote:
http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.png http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.svg
FWIW, I like a lot the two central ones in the bottom row, thanks!
My favorite one is the second one from the left on the bottom row. Thanks, Nicolas, you are our artist! Gael
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Gael Varoquaux < gael.varoquaux@normalesup.org> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:21:53PM -0700, Fernando Perez wrote:
http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.png http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/tmp/scipy.svg
FWIW, I like a lot the two central ones in the bottom row, thanks!
My favorite one is the second one from the left on the bottom row.
Seconded, that one looks quite good! Ralf
Thanks, Nicolas, you are our artist!
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My replies to Pauli are below. I also like the bottom second from the left graphic, thanks for those! On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Pauli Virtanen <pav@iki.fi> wrote:
Kyle Mandli <kyle.mandli <at> gmail.com> writes:
I kind of dropped the ball on this as I have been traveling for the past month. I think we are ready to move forward on this and at least get the pieces in place. I am still not clear exactly what the current status of the scipy.org-new and scipy.github.com repos on github are. Can anyone speak to this?
The status of scipy.org-new repository is that it is incomplete, but future work should build on it, as it has some basic infrastructure in place. (The conference/ directory in that repo can be ignored/removed, as I believe it is outdated.)
The scipy.github.com contains the HTML output built from scipy.org-new.
This sounds like exactly what we had in mind! We may want to just go ahead and rename these repositories to mirror what ipython and matplotlib are using for names (this would apply to scipy.org-new). Is the content then in scipy.org-new relatively up to date with the old site? We could also start to accept github issues for things to bring over and people can then knock off missing pieces until we built up to where we left off. Also, this approach would probably require us to stop all new additions of content to the new site and encourage people to post to the new one.
On a related topic, I have been searching out someone who may be able to do some redesign work on the site but was not successful (at least a free option). Any suggestions for someone with some design experience that could update the look of the site a bit please let us know.
Well, the only requirement is that it should look better and more organized than the current scipy.org page. That probably does not require 1337 design chops, just some CSS/HTML skills :)
Also, somehow the typography on scipy.github.com is off, the text looks ugly and is difficult to read.
The main point IMO is just to come up with some visual consistency and navigation scheme between the main site, the documentation, etc. This doesn't have to be perfect, the main thing is just to think up some sort of a consistent framework.
Agreed. As one doctor once said though, "I am a doctor, not a designer", at least that's probably what he would have said.
The second thing related to content would be to think what to do with the different Scipys:
- "Scipy the community site" - "Scipy the library"
Well, anyway, the above is just my suggestion on what could be done. If you can think of some other ways to improve the situation, please don't let this hold you up.
This issue is interesting and definitely bear further discussion in the community. Maybe the conference series wants to consider this as well?
-- Pauli Virtanen
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