Hi all, SciPy Central has been down for weeks, and barely anyone has noticed (2 bug reports). Almost no new content has been created the last year, and the use cases it tried to address are now covered pretty well by StackOverflow and Github/gists. A bit more discussion with Surya and Pauli, who have done most of the maintenance for the site the last couple of years, happened on https://github.com/scipy/SciPyCentral/issues/207. In https://github.com/scipy/scipy.org/pull/226 I've removed links to it from scipy.org. I propose we go ahead and merge that, and shut down the site completely. This is in no way a judgement of the work especially Surya put in during and after his GSoC - more an acknowledgement that times have changed. And maybe that we should collectively try to stay away from sysadmin duties as much as possible (scipy.org, mailman, etc. also have not been fun). Cheers, Ralf
Hi Ralf On Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 03:29, Ralf Gommers wrote:
SciPy Central has been down for weeks, and barely anyone has noticed (2 bug reports). Almost no new content has been created the last year, and the use cases it tried to address are now covered pretty well by StackOverflow and Github/gists. A bit more discussion with Surya and Pauli, who have done most of the maintenance for the site the last couple of years, happened on https://github.com/scipy/SciPyCentral/issues/207.> In https://github.com/scipy/scipy.org/pull/226 I've removed links to it from scipy.org. I propose we go ahead and merge that, and shut down the site completely. There are some very useful scripts on there. Do we have a plan for rescuing the content? StackOverflow seems less discoverable, as does GitHub gists. Stéfan
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Stefan van der Walt <stefanv@berkeley.edu> wrote:
Hi Ralf
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 03:29, Ralf Gommers wrote:
SciPy Central has been down for weeks, and barely anyone has noticed (2 bug reports). Almost no new content has been created the last year, and the use cases it tried to address are now covered pretty well by StackOverflow and Github/gists. A bit more discussion with Surya and Pauli, who have done most of the maintenance for the site the last couple of years, happened on https://github.com/scipy/SciPyCentral/issues/207.
In https://github.com/scipy/scipy.org/pull/226 I've removed links to it from scipy.org. I propose we go ahead and merge that, and shut down the site completely.
There are some very useful scripts on there. Do we have a plan for rescuing the content? StackOverflow seems less discoverable, as does GitHub gists.
No plan yet. If I'd have to take a stab at it, I'd suggest: 1. Put the content (https://github.com/scipy/SciPyCentral#backup-and-restore) somewhere accessible 2. Take the last version of each script/notebook, discard the history. 3. Write some code to transform all of those into notebooks suitable for inclusion in https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook 4. Go through by hand, see what's in good shape, and send PRs to https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook for those. That may be quite a bit of work though. At least (1) should be done before decommissioning the server. Ralf
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 00:38, Ralf Gommers wrote:
No plan yet. If I'd have to take a stab at it, I'd suggest:
1. Put the content (https://github.com/scipy/SciPyCentral#backup-and-restore) somewhere accessible> 2. Take the last version of each script/notebook, discard the history.> 3. Write some code to transform all of those into notebooks suitable for inclusion in https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook> 4. Go through by hand, see what's in good shape, and send PRs to https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook for those.> That may be quite a bit of work though. At least (1) should be done before decommissioning the server.
This is a perfect student project; I'm going to try and find someone to work on it. Thanks for this outline, Stéfan
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Stefan van der Walt <stefanv@berkeley.edu> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 00:38, Ralf Gommers wrote:
No plan yet. If I'd have to take a stab at it, I'd suggest:
1. Put the content (https://github.com/scipy/SciPyCentral#backup-and- restore) somewhere accessible 2. Take the last version of each script/notebook, discard the history. 3. Write some code to transform all of those into notebooks suitable for inclusion in https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook 4. Go through by hand, see what's in good shape, and send PRs to https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook for those.
That may be quite a bit of work though. At least (1) should be done before decommissioning the server.
This is a perfect student project; I'm going to try and find someone to work on it.
That would be awesome! @Pauli/Surya: can one of you do (1)? I think you're the only ones with server access? Cheers, Ralf
Thanks for this outline,
Stéfan
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Hi guys, I can share database dump or access to the server platform. Let me see if I can bring back the site up. Reasons for server down: uWSGi is too long to respond and aborting its threads. I suspect version incompatibilities with the latest uWSGI and OpenSSL (our codebase uses older libraries for almost everything). I agree that the landscape has changed. Many people post GitHub gists instead of code on SciPy Central. SciPy Planet, Cookbook appears to have more interesting content. Thanks Surya On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Stefan van der Walt <stefanv@berkeley.edu
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 00:38, Ralf Gommers wrote:
No plan yet. If I'd have to take a stab at it, I'd suggest:
1. Put the content (https://github.com/scipy/SciP yCentral#backup-and-restore) somewhere accessible 2. Take the last version of each script/notebook, discard the history. 3. Write some code to transform all of those into notebooks suitable for inclusion in https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook 4. Go through by hand, see what's in good shape, and send PRs to https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook for those.
That may be quite a bit of work though. At least (1) should be done before decommissioning the server.
This is a perfect student project; I'm going to try and find someone to work on it.
That would be awesome!
@Pauli/Surya: can one of you do (1)? I think you're the only ones with server access?
Cheers, Ralf
Thanks for this outline,
Stéfan
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On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Surya <kasturi.surya@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I can share database dump or access to the server platform. Let me see if I can bring back the site up.
Awesome, thanks Surya. Ralf
Reasons for server down: uWSGi is too long to respond and aborting its threads. I suspect version incompatibilities with the latest uWSGI and OpenSSL (our codebase uses older libraries for almost everything).
I agree that the landscape has changed. Many people post GitHub gists instead of code on SciPy Central. SciPy Planet, Cookbook appears to have more interesting content.
Thanks Surya
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Stefan van der Walt < stefanv@berkeley.edu> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 00:38, Ralf Gommers wrote:
No plan yet. If I'd have to take a stab at it, I'd suggest:
1. Put the content (https://github.com/scipy/SciP yCentral#backup-and-restore) somewhere accessible 2. Take the last version of each script/notebook, discard the history. 3. Write some code to transform all of those into notebooks suitable for inclusion in https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook 4. Go through by hand, see what's in good shape, and send PRs to https://github.com/scipy/scipy-cookbook for those.
That may be quite a bit of work though. At least (1) should be done before decommissioning the server.
This is a perfect student project; I'm going to try and find someone to work on it.
That would be awesome!
@Pauli/Surya: can one of you do (1)? I think you're the only ones with server access?
Cheers, Ralf
Thanks for this outline,
Stéfan
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