Mailman 3 February 2004 - spambayes-dev

train to exhaustion?
by Skip Montanaro Feb. 6, 2004

Feb. 6, 2004

Did anyone see Gary Robinson's blog (and related pages) about train-to-exhaustion? Justin Mason posted a reference on the spambayes list. Does one of the incremental training regimens implement it under a different name? Skip

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RE: [spambayes-dev] New release
by Tony Meyer Feb. 6, 2004

Feb. 6, 2004

> POP3 Proxy, IMAP Filter, and IMAP Server have a separate > InterfaceVersion. Most users won't differentiate between an > app and its user interface, so do we really need a separate > version for the UI? [...] > If noone is opposed, this is another quick cleanup we could > make before the release that would probably simplify things > for the future. Yes, this is definitely something that should be done, especially since the vast majority of the web interface code is shared among them anyway. I had made this change locally, but didn't ever commit it since I wanted to sort out the rest, but couldn't figure out how :) IMAP Server's interface version can be dumped; it doesn't really use the web interface at all anymore (just for configuration, and even that will go). I had originally made a new 'application', which was the interface, and both sb_server and sb_imapfilter referred to that. It does seem that the interface may change significantly without sb_server or sb_imapfilter doing so (in fact, sb_server hardly changes at all anymore, but the interface changes lots). But you can just kill it if you think that's better. =Tony Meyer

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RE: [spambayes-dev] New release [Release candidate attached]
by Tony Meyer Feb. 6, 2004

Feb. 6, 2004

> I noticed that these archives contain some version number > changes that aren't checked into CVS. Is that intentional? Well spotted :) The answer is kinda. I bumped the __init__.py version, as per the instructions, and figured that the Version.py ones would need to be as well, before an actual release. I didn't check anything in, though, because I figured it'd be better to wait until the stuff is sorted :) The ones I bumped are the ones that I personally think have changed since 1.0a7 (although I'm 50/50 about the engine itself, but I think the experimental/deprecated options make it so). =Tony Meyer

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RE: [spambayes-dev] Re: spambayes/scripts ...
by Tony Meyer Feb. 6, 2004

Feb. 6, 2004

> > I must admit, I don't understand what makes 7+1 a bad > > number. Inside joke perhaps? > > Oh, good, I'm not the only one who missed that one! <0.9 wink> Sorry, maybe I'm just too young <wink> or geeky <0.5 wink>. It's a Discworld reference: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight> (it's the 14th entry). It was much more a thing in the early Discworld books than in the recent stuff. Ignoring the bad joke, Mark's suggestion to use 1.09 did seem to make sense, to try and synchronise the binary/source stuff, but if anyone cares enough to check in a change back to 1.08, I'm not going to care :) =Tony

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RE: [spambayes-dev] Capitalization of SpamBayes
by Tony Meyer Feb. 6, 2004

Feb. 6, 2004

> What is the preferred capitalization of our name: "SpamBayes" > or "Spambayes"? It's used very inconsistently throughout the > docs and even the web UI's, and I'd like to get that cleaned up. I used to use Spambayes, but then IIRC saw a check-in messages consistifying :) to SpamBayes so have tried to use that since. The logo that the Outlook plug-in (and the readme for the binary sb_server) uses has SpamBayes, so if it ends up as something different, so should that. My personal preference is for spambayes. SpamBayes is worse to type than Spambayes, but, as Tim said, it is the dude's name, after all. I don't really care which one of those it is. Maybe spam_bayes? <wink> Or SpamFisher? Or just FisherBayes, in case Hormel does get really picky? <0.9 wink>. =Tony Meyer

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RE: [spambayes-dev] Capitalization of SpamBayes
by Ryan Malayter Feb. 5, 2004

Feb. 5, 2004

[Kenny Pitt] > I guess us Windows guys are just used to mixed case. I was leaning > towards "SpamBayes" myself. +1 from me. I've always liked the so-called "CaliforniaCase" (mixed case without spaces) for computer stuff, be it C++/VB/Java variable names, SQL table names, whatever. It's easy to separate the different parts of the name viusally, and you don't have to restort to using underscores or other separator characters that might not work in some other instance. (Irritatingly, every language, OS, and protocal seems to have different rules in this regard. Some allow underscores, others only dashes, etc. But every platform I've ever seen accepts CaliforniaCase as valid identifier syntax, even if it's not a case-sensitive language.) But since I've contributed little besides bug reports, I probably shouldn't get a vote... Regards, Ryan

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Re: [spambayes-dev] Capitalization of SpamBayes
by T. Alexander Popiel Feb. 5, 2004

Feb. 5, 2004

In message: <Law11-OE66n3z9WwRfw000235f3(a)hotmail.com> "Kenny Pitt" <kennypitt(a)hotmail.com> writes: >What is the preferred capitalization of our name: "SpamBayes" or >"Spambayes"? It's used very inconsistently throughout the docs and even >the web UI's, and I'd like to get that cleaned up. Why, it's "spambayes", all lower, even at the start of a sentence, of course! ;-) Any other monkeys you need wrenched? - Alex

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Capitalization of SpamBayes
by Kenny Pitt Feb. 5, 2004

Feb. 5, 2004

What is the preferred capitalization of our name: "SpamBayes" or "Spambayes"? It's used very inconsistently throughout the docs and even the web UI's, and I'd like to get that cleaned up. -- Kenny Pitt

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Fwd: [Spambayes] Spambayes bug
by Tim Stone Feb. 5, 2004

Feb. 5, 2004

A problem that I don't know the answer to on the spambayes public list... anyone got a guess at what's going on here? ------- Forwarded message ------- From: Dee Dee <deedeemurry(a)greatbigisland.com> To: spambayes(a)python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes bug Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:32:35 -0800 > Well shucks, no one responded to my problem and I've since seen similar > posts and it seems there isn't an answer to this bug. (Spam folder > suddenly > deletes and when trying to recreate it, configuration wizard doesn't > work). > I have deleted spaybayes and reinstalled, did the toolbar thing, > nothing. I > don't know what else to try so I guess it's good bye to Spambayes. I will > miss it, it worked GREAT. I would be more than happy to pay for it if > there > was a way to make it work again. Thanks for putting it out there. > > > > By the way, and not complaining here, I know this is all free and very > generous of you to even offer it, but on your website, and put in my > info to > go to the subscriber list, I get an error page. > -- Vous exprimer; Exprésese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com

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Suggestion for Spambayes
by Booth, David Feb. 5, 2004

Feb. 5, 2004

I have been creating an extensive junk senders list within the Outlook Junk senders options. The junk senders text file located in the users C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Junk Senders.txt and Adult Content Senders.txt could additionally be used for training the system. At least for those of us who are trying in vain through the Outlook junk senders option. David R. Booth, MCSE, CNA Director, Information Technology Southwest Mental Health Center 8535 Tom Slick Drive San Antonio, Texas 78229 Voice: (210) 582-6426 Fax: (210) 616-0417 www.smhc.org <http://www.smhc.org/>

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