Mailman 3 April 2005 - spambayes-dev

RE: RE : [spambayes-dev] internationalisation
by Tony Meyer April 20, 2005

April 20, 2005

[Nicolas PIGNIER] > i'd like to translate the spambayes ui in french. > where do i start ? [Rémy HESSELS] > If you need help for additionnal translating, I can help you. [Nicolas Viry] > Ive already translated the ui into french. Im translating > the web site as well but its a slow process as Im going to > have a new job in the next days. If the three (or two) of you wanted to collaborate on this, then I'm sure that work would. If you get 1.1a1, it has the translations that have been done (well, submitted anyway) so far. Remaining for French: * The Notifications tab of the Outlook dialog. * All the dynamic text (in the messages.pot file). * All the documentation. * The website. Paul Philipon-Dollet was also interested: not sure if he managed to get any of it done or not: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes-dev/2005-April/003480.html> =Tony.Meyer

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internationalisation
by Nicolas PIGNIER April 19, 2005

April 19, 2005

Hi, i'd like to translate the spambayes ui in french. where do i start ? thanks in advance Nicolas PIGNIER Service Informatique Groupe Inddigo Tel direct : 04.79.96.57.78 - Poste 401 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Groupe INDDIGO 367, av. du Grand Ariétaz - Z.I. de Bissy - 73000 CHAMBERY Tél : 04.79.69.89.69 - Fax 04.79.96.46.69 www.inddigo.com <http://www.inddigo.com/>

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RE: [spambayes-dev] Translation of Spambayes into german
by Tony Meyer April 13, 2005

April 13, 2005

> I've just started translating. This will take me some days > for the first file, i think. The second one (the html) will > take much longer. There's no hurry. I expect it will be at least a month before 1.1a2, and it shouldn't take much time to actually integrate the translation. Thanks again for the help! > And here comes my first question: Some of > the translation will be longer than the original text. Is > this a problem, because of the Layout? It's likely to only be a problem with the Outlook dialogs (they're the only UI that's really fixed in size). However, it's simplest if you don't worry about that - just do the translation, and if there is a size issue then I (or one of the other developers) can take care of resizing anything necessary. IIRC, we adjusted the Outlook dialog to fit the French a little - it's easy enough to do (as long as the translation isn't massively longer than the original!). =Tony.Meyer

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RE: [spambayes-dev] Translation of Spambayes into german
by Tony Meyer April 12, 2005

April 12, 2005

> After reading the instructions, I'm sorry, but I thought it's easier. > I've only coded with PHP and so I thought, there is an language-file > where I have to translate the strings. I'm realy sorry, because I > like spambayes and wanted to help. The instructions are probably making it sound more complicated than it is. It is pretty much just translating strings or HTML documents (which you could open in any HTML editor). There's <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/spamba yes/languages/messages.pot> Or in a CVS checkout: 'spambayes/spambayes/languages/messages.pot'. Which is just a list of strings that are used in dynamically generating text. You can just edit this in a text editor, or use a GUI editor like poEdit: <http://www.poedit.org> Then there's an HTML file: <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/spamba yes/resources/ui.html> Or in a CVS checkout 'spambayes/spambayes/resources/ui.html'. Just open it in any HTML editor (or a text editor) and translate it. The Outlook dialogs are a bit more complicated. But if you still want to help, you can start with those two, and if you manage to do those, I can help out with the dialogs. There's the documentation, too, which are just HTML files. =Tony.Meyer

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RE: Translation in french - source documents locations
by Tony Meyer April 12, 2005

April 12, 2005

[Tony Meyer] >> I believe there are three tasks remaining for an initial >> French translation: >> >> 1. The new "Notifications" tab of the SpamBayes Manager >> dialog needs to be translated. >> >> 2. The dynamically generated text needs to be translated >> (using the gettext tools). >> >> 3. All the documentation needs to be translated. [Paul Philipon-Dollet] > Further to my last email, I've tried to locate spambayes > documents that need to be translated in french. > > In the directory "[cvs] / spambayes / spambayes / languages / > fr_FR", I've found some documents that would require > rewriting but are already translated. Yes, the web interface file, which is in this directory, has already been translated. > Same for Dialogs and LS messages subdirectories. The dialog file has been mostly translated, but not completely. One tab ("Notifications") was added after the initial translation was done, and so hasn't been translated yet. (The rest of the file is done). None of the LC_MESSAGES stuff (the gettext part, for the dynamically generated text) has been done. (Note that just before putting 1.1a1 out, I moved the languages directory, because it really makes much more sense to be in the spambayes package. So the files are now in [cvs] / spambayes / spambayes / spambayes / languages). > As I'm not familiar yet with SourceForge processes, I'd > appreciate to have direct links to the good documents and/or > directories. The dialogs file (which just needs the Notifications tab translated) is in ViewCVS here: <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/spamba yes/languages/fr/DIALOGS/dialogs.rc> Or is in 'spambayes/spambayes/languages/fr/DIALOGS/dialogs.rc' in a CVS checkout. To do the translation for the gettext stuff, you create a .po files from a .pot (.po template). There hasn't been one in CVS, since this just gets auto generated, but I'll put one there to make it easier. Once anonymous CVS catches up, it'll be in View CVS here: <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/spamba yes/languages/messages.pot> Or in a CVS checkout: 'spambayes/spambayes/languages/messages.pot'. You can just edit the file in a text editor, or use a GUI editor like poEdit. Submitting just the .po file is sufficient, although you need to create the compiled .mo file to test (I can do this if necessary). Applications like poEdit will do this for you. <http://www.poedit.org/> No-one has translated any documentation so far, so there aren't any translated documents checked in, or even a scheme for what we will do with them. Once we get some, we'll figure something out. The English versions are in ViewCVS here: <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outloo k2000/about.html> <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outloo k2000/docs/configuration.html> <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outloo k2000/docs/troubleshooting.html> <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outloo k2000/docs/welcome.html> <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/window s/readme_proxy.html> <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/window s/docs/troubleshooting.html> =Tony.Meyer

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Translation in french - source documents locations
by Paul Philipon-Dollet April 11, 2005

April 11, 2005

Hi, Further to my last email, I've tried to locate spambayes documents that need to be translated in french. In the directory "[cvs] / spambayes / spambayes / languages / fr_FR", I've found some documents that would require rewriting but are already translated. Same for Dialogs and LS messages subdirectories. As I'm not familiar yet with SourceForge processes, I'd appreciate to have direct links to the good documents and/or directories. Can you help ? Best regards, Paul, -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:31 AM To: 'Paul Philipon-Dollet'; spambayes(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Help proposal > I'm using SpamBayes and it works great. If you ever need to translate > menus and documentation in french, I'd be happy to help. That would be great! 1.1 will include support for translations, and there are partial translations into Spanish and French at the moment, but the people that were providing those have been too busy to finish the work off recently. I believe there are three tasks remaining for an initial French translation: 1. The new "Notifications" tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog needs to be translated. 2. The dynamically generated text needs to be translated (using the gettext tools). 3. All the documentation needs to be translated. If you want to work on any of those, that would be great. #3 is pretty straightforward - for #1 and #2 there are instructions in the README-DEVEL.txt file in CVS, or you can ask (here or spambayes-dev(a)python.org). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [spambayes-dev] Translation of Spambayes into german
by Tony Meyer April 8, 2005

April 8, 2005

> If there is nobody, who translate Spambayes into german, i > would do it. Nobody else has stepped up to do this so far, so that would be great! 1.1a1 has support for translation - if you get the source release, there are instructions in the README-DEVEL.txt file in there. Please feel free to ask any questions here if you run into problems! =Tony.Meyer

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Where's 1.1a1 .exe for Windows?
by Andy Holt April 7, 2005

April 7, 2005

Hi all, just wanted to try out the 1.1a1 installer for Windows, but it's showing as a zero-length file on the SourceForge downloads page. Has it been withdrawn or is there a problem at SF? cheers Andy

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Translation of Spambayes into german
by kleinerChemiker April 7, 2005

April 7, 2005

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RE: [spambayes-dev] 1.1a1 release candidate for testing
by Tony Meyer April 7, 2005

April 7, 2005

> I get the following error when I want to use the spam train > function online: > Training... > 500 Server error > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator > > File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 542, in onTrain > > NameError: global name 'key' is not defined Thanks; fixed. =Tony.Meyer

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