Mailman 3 July 2005 - spambayes-dev

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by SE SO INC July 15, 2005

July 15, 2005

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Re: [spambayes-dev] sb_imapfilter or imaplib - another crash on bad date
by Meyer, Tony July 14, 2005

July 14, 2005

(Please excuse the HTML mail; working from a crappy webmail system) > I've had some imapfilter crashes related to bad dates. From what I can > found it resembles of [890645], but appears when saving (appending) the > mail. > > I'm not sure whatever this should be considered a bug or not, or where > it's best fixed (in imaplib or spambayes)... If it really does seem like a bug with imaplib, then that should definitely be reported (open a bug tracker on <http://sf.net/projects/python <http://sf.net/projects/python> >) - I recall that we did come across one back when first writing imapfilter, although I don't recall what it was offhand. However, even in that case, we still really want to patch SpamBayes to handle it as well, for two reasons. The first is that (hopefully <0.5 wink>) the Python release cycle is slower that the SpamBayes release cycle. It's likely that a new SpamBayes release (e.g. 1.1a2) will come out before the next Python release (I think 2.3 is done, so that would be 2.4.2, or 2.5). The other reason is that we aim to have SpamBayes work for any versions of Python greater than or equal to 2.2; it's nice not to have to force people to have the most recent versions of something. [...] > Should I report this as a bug (including the suggested fix), or can I > just post it here and some "real" developer will catch it? The first thing to do, if possible, would be to check whether this has already been fixed in CVS. I know that Sjoerd has checked in some imapfilter fixes to do with dates recently, but I don't recall what they were offhand, and don't have easy access to check right now. The easiest way to check is to use SF's ViewCVS (the "CVS" and then "View Reposity" links on <http://sf.net/projects/spambayes <http://sf.net/projects/spambayes> >) to look at sb_imapfilter.py. If the problem is already fixed in CVS, then you don't need to do anything. If it's not then ideally either a bug report or patch tracker (link above) for SpamBayes. If it's a bug and you set it to "imapfilter", then it will automatically assign it to me (anadelonbrin) and I'll get to it at some point. Having a patch, rather than just a bug report drastically reduces the amount of time it'll take for me to deal with it. However, reporting it here also stands a reasonable chance of it being noticed and fixed (it probably increases the time, since I'm more likely to review what's waiting for me on the tracker than review spambayes-dev emails that I haven't got to yet). Thanks for the email and the patch (even if the fix is already in CVS) - greatly appreciated! (People to work on imapfilter are particularly thin on the ground). =Tony.Meyer

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sb_imapfilter or imaplib - another crash on bad date
by Emil Pedersen July 13, 2005

July 13, 2005

Hi, I've had some imapfilter crashes related to bad dates. From what I can found it resembles of [890645], but appears when saving (appending) the mail. I'm not sure whatever this should be considered a bug or not, or where it's best fixed (in imaplib or spambayes)... Anyway, by catching the execption raised from the append call it works fine (given my setup, spambayes-1.0.3 & python-2.3.5). So here's my "fix": emilp@emil:proj/SPAMBAYES> diff sb_imapfilter.py.ORG sb_imapfilter.py 522,525c522,529 < response = imap.append(self.folder.name, flgs, tme, < self.as_string()) < if response[0] == "OK": < break --- > # Catch exceptions that may occure if msg_time is realy > # bad (I got one like "19-Jan-2038 04:10:47 +0100"). > # Just pass the exceptions, and the loop will try again, > # eventualy with an desent time. > try: > response = imap.append(self.folder.name, flgs, tme, > self.as_string()) > except IMAP4.error: > pass > else: > if response[0] == "OK": > break Should I report this as a bug (including the suggested fix), or can I just post it here and some "real" developer will catch it? I'm not familiar with the normal bug tracking procedure, so please help me out or point me in the right direction. Sincerely yours, Emil

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by Branislav Egan July 9, 2005

July 9, 2005

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by Natalia July 9, 2005

July 9, 2005

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Good Morning
by Hargens, Becky July 6, 2005

July 6, 2005

I was on your website FAQ page and couldn't find an answer to several questions: 1. How do you get Spambayes to accept all those in your contact lists as "good", not as "suspect" spam without clicking on one suspect spam at a time? After installing the software, I discovered email I received from people at work was going into the suspect folder. I would have thought the program, during it's initial training phase, would have gone through all the address/contact lists and set those as "good". It didn't, and it's a pain to train each one. 2. I have been trying over and over to train the software to accept an email address as good (ie., not suspect spam). I was clicking on "recover from spam", assuming this was what was telling the program that the email addy was ok. Apparently it isn't. Any suggestions?

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Unicode version of PyMeldLite
by Faber July 5, 2005

July 5, 2005

Hello guys, I've used your PyMeldLite module for a web application, and I've modified it in order to support Unicode strings (well, let's say utf-8 decoded ones ;) ). Probably it's not the greatest patch I've wrote, but it works for me and could be used as start-point for implement full Unicode support in PyMeldLite. Let me know if you're interested in my patched version, and where can I send it. Regards -- Faber http://www.faberbox.com/ Like music and mathematical equations, computer language is just that, language, and it communicates information either to a computer or to those who can read it...For the purposes of First Amendment analysis, this court finds that source code is speech. -- Judge Marilyn Hall Patel

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Compilation & translation quest.
by �� July 5, 2005

July 5, 2005

Sorry for my bad English, it is not my native language. Yesterday I've just finished translate an Outlook addin to RUSSIA lang. But! There is a big problem: For the first, I try to compile a "clean dist" sources of 1.1a1 Installed tools are py2exe-0.5.4.win32-py2.4.exe python-2.4.1.msi pywin32-204.win32-py2.4.exe ResourcePackage-1.0.0.win32.exe InnoSetup (fresh) Being guided by the text of the readme-devel.txt -- o Run the setup.py file in the spambayes/Outlook2000/docs directory to generate the dynamic documentation. Ran it o Run sb_server and open the web interface. This gets resourcepackage to generate the needed files. Yes o Replace the __init__.py file in spambayes/spambayes/resources with a blank file to disable resourcepackage. Empty o Ensure that the version numbers in spambayes/spambayes/__init__.py and spambayes/spambayes/Version.py are up-to-date. Don' touch o Ensure that you don't have any other copies of spambayes in your PYTHONPATH, or py2exe will pick these up! If in doubt, run setup.py install. Yes o Run the "setup_all.py" script in the spambayes/windows/py2exe/ directory. This uses py2exe to create the files that Inno will install. The result is : [skipped] creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\build\bdist.win32 creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\build\bdist.win32\winexe creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\build\bdist.win32\winexe\collect creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\build\bdist.win32\winexe\temp creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\dist creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\dist\lib creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\dist\bin *** generate typelib stubs *** creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\build\bdist.win32\winexe\temp\win32com creating C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\build\bdist.win32\winexe\temp\win32com\gen_py Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\SPAMBAYES\windows\py2exe\setup_all.py", line 187, in ? zipfile = "lib/spambayes.modules", File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\core.py", line 149, in setup dist.run_commands() File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\dist.py", line 946, in run_commands self.run_command(cmd) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\dist.py", line 966, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\py2exe\build_exe.py", line 183, in run self._run() File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\py2exe\build_exe.py", line 214, in _run self.typelibs) File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\py2exe\build_exe.py", line 1254, in collect_win32com_genpy mod = gencache.GetModuleForTypelib(*info) File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\gencache.py", line 258, in GetModuleForTypelib mod = _GetModule(modName) File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\gencache.py", line 629, in _GetModule mod = __import__(mod_name) ImportError: No module named 00062FFF-0000-0000-C000-000000000046x0x9x0 So I got only iss file without any needed files in py2exe\dist\ Whats the problem ? I think there's my mistakes, but where I mistake ? Thanx for the GREAT WORK for ALL TEAM MEMBERS! Russia stay with you :) Alexei

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Re: [spambayes-dev] web service
by Tony Meyer July 4, 2005

July 4, 2005

> Can someone help me with a utility to export or convert > the spambayes db to text? See the sb_dbexpimp.py script in the source distribution. It will convert a SpamBayes token database in any of the supported forms to/from CSV. > Not to step on anyone's pickle, but how about an option in > spambayes to choose whether to use a db, or xml for storage. We support pickle, various dbms, mysql, postgresql, and ZODB. If you want something else, then the code is pretty simple to write. (See storage.py). > Drive space is cheap, I wouldn't mind a larger database if > it meant that I could parse it from another application > (OS, etc.) You can use any of the existing formats from other applications. If you use pickle, then that probably restricts you to programs written in Python (although it's possible there's a C library to read Python's pickle format, and you could do it via the Python source anyway). For dbm, look at (e.g) libdbm. SQL is SQL. You're more likely to use ZODB if you're using Python, but again, you can use it from elsewhere. > XML would make sharing the db a lot easier. Just a thought. XML would be hideous overkill for this sort of thing. "<token><string>word</string><ham_count>10</ham_count><spam_count>34</spam_c ount></token>" is excessively verbose. =Tony.Meyer

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web service
by TronixSoft July 2, 2005

July 2, 2005

Hi, I'm writing spam filtering service for the "free" email services bundled with Windows server 2003. (Which consist of just SMTP and pop3 services.) I would like to leverage the client side spambayes database to provide server side filtering. The approach I would like to take is to leave spambayes intact on the client and leverage its (superb) efforts, and have the (email) server updated with the results. Here is what the server will do: Receive email Check for spam based on the recipient's individual (spambayes) database If spam, take preconfigured action (move, delete, tag, etc.) If not spam, cache the results for a preconfigured amount of time (say, a day) and wait for a ham/spam report from the client If a ham/spam report arrives, update the database accordingly If no report arrives within timeout period, take a preconfigured course of action (update db based on current results, assume good/bad, ignore, etc.) Forward email to the next hop as appropriate Listen for updates from spambayes clients via web service Here is what the client would do, without an update to spambayes Receive email Allow spambayes to process Forward results (clues?) for the current email to the server; or send copy of db to server and let server digest the entire db; each via additional Outlook plug-in -or- Forward db to sever as a manual/calendar update (i.e. not on arrival of each email) Here is what the client could do with an update to spambayes (presumptuous, I know and apologize) Receive email Process Connect to server via web services (xml/soap) and upload results for the current email Yes, this would mean a separate db per user on the server which I think is a good thing, but may cause scalability issues. However, I would like to get started 'somewhere'. I also realize that I could forgo the web services and just have the xml package emailed to a service account inbox on the server, but I'm not too keen on the idea of automating the sending of email from Outlook or otherwise. Also, by using a web service, this would leave the door open to many options and features. One would be a single interface by which a user can update preferences on the server, regardless of the client (web page, binary, from within spambayes itself). My question is: Can someone help me with a utility to export or convert the spambayes db to text? The reason I'm asking for help is due to a desire to code this in VB.NET. I took some classes in C many years ago, but ended up spending all my time "growing up" with VB. I could learn python and figure this out, but I'm hoping to focus on the areas I know best. Not to step on anyone's pickle, but how about an option in spambayes to choose whether to use a db, or xml for storage. Drive space is cheap, I wouldn't mind a larger database if it meant that I could parse it from another application (OS, etc.) XML would make sharing the db a lot easier. Just a thought. By the way, I may even develop a script version whereby the xml package can be copied to a share or emailed to a special inbox on the server that a script will monitor, digest and update config/db files for each user accordingly. Currently I'm using a simple VB script on the server, implementing some WMI calls (cpu friendly way to monitor folder for new files), and a white/black list. Of course I understand this to be very rudimentary. But it is a surprisingly effective (and free) way to handle some of the more obvious spam. The white list is based on email addresses, and the black list is comprised of keywords (such as viagra, etc.) Any thoughts, comments, encouragement, and/or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robert

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