Re: [spambayes-dev] Spambayes and the Debian Project
(apologies for the top post...) Thanks for the note, Hugo. I've cc'd spambayes-dev to my reply. Others there (assuming there still are others) might have some suggestions. SpamBayes has been dormant for quite some time, as you observed. I'm not sure what you mean by "dead" though. I'm not sure what's to be done about that. There are a few people who try to answer questions about it on the main list (spambayes@python.org), but most of those questions come from users of the Windows version. I no longer use it myself anymore, except on the mail.python.org site. That instance hasn't been updated in quite awhile either. I'm not sure what an official "declare the end of the Spambayes project" would mean. Do you want to take it over? Assuming you've been maintaining it for Debian (I had no idea any Linux distros included it), I don't think it would be a big deal to get you added as an official maintainer. I'm not sure I've seen any bug reports, and like I said, I had no idea it was included in any Linux distributions. Do you have specific bugs to report? Skip Montanaro On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:07 AM, <hugo6390@users.sf.net> wrote:
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Hi Skip,
I'm the Debian Maintainer of the spambayes package.
Today, I decided to contact you in order to clarify the situation of the spambayes project, which seems to be dead since 2007.
Spambayes is still maintained in the Debian Project, but its maintenance becomes harder and harder. Spambayes will even become unusable soon. That's bad, because a lot of persons are still using this software. I'm not able to fix spambayes alone, and I'll have to request its deletion if don't find a solution.
I want you to officially declare the end of the Spambayes project if it's the case. Otherwise, could you, please, help me to fix spambayes' bugs ?
Kind Regards, Hugo
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SpamBayes has been dormant for quite some time, as you observed. I'm not sure what you mean by "dead" though. I'm not sure what's to be done about that. There are a few people who try to answer questions about it on the main list (spambayes@python.org), but most of those questions come from users of the Windows version.
I haven't had anything to say on the list for some time because Spambayes continues to work admirably for me. I'm willing to believe that there are bugs, but I haven't run into any at all recently. I plan to continue to use Spambayes for all the foreseeable future. Regards, Matt
I am somewhat familiar with software packaging in Debian and Ubuntu, and I was aware that Spambayes is included in Debian - that's how I installed it on my server. So in theory this would make me the ideal intermediary between the Spambayes project and a Debian package maintainer. However I have neither the time nor the interest to take up a long term engagement. I am willing to make a one time effort and take a look at the bug reports in Debian's package tracker and figure out why they haven't reached the Spambayes-dev mailing list. Amedee Van Gasse amedee@vangasse.eu On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, 19:06 Matthew Dixon Cowles <matt@mondoinfo.com> wrote:
SpamBayes has been dormant for quite some time, as you observed. I'm not sure what you mean by "dead" though. I'm not sure what's to be done about that. There are a few people who try to answer questions about it on the main list (spambayes@python.org), but most of those questions come from users of the Windows version.
I haven't had anything to say on the list for some time because Spambayes continues to work admirably for me. I'm willing to believe that there are bugs, but I haven't run into any at all recently. I plan to continue to use Spambayes for all the foreseeable future.
Regards, Matt
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I am a dedicated user of spambayes, a Python programmer, and I have some experience with Debian packaging. I can volunteer a small and non-specific amount of time to look at spambayes bugs in the debian bts, particularly "RC" bugs which would lead to the package's removal from Debian. ... earlier today I submitted a patch for one debian bug, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789564 though my analysis leads me to believe that the naming incompatibility in python-lockfile doesn't actually affect spambayes. Jeff
I see that there are already others who are even better suited for this than myself, so I retract my offer to help out. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net> wrote:
I am a dedicated user of spambayes, a Python programmer, and I have some experience with Debian packaging.
I can volunteer a small and non-specific amount of time to look at spambayes bugs in the debian bts, particularly "RC" bugs which would lead to the package's removal from Debian.
... earlier today I submitted a patch for one debian bug, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789564 though my analysis leads me to believe that the naming incompatibility in python-lockfile doesn't actually affect spambayes.
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(Apologies for my top posting as well). I really have the same questions as Skip - what does "dead" mean, and what is the consequence of whatever it is? I use SpamBayes in a commercial product - its handling millions of messages a day for us without any problems. I have been slack at pushing stuff back upstream (it's always on my list, but never quite seems to make it to the top. I'll try harder to fix that), but in general it is still just the core SB package. It's certainly not unusable. I am also using it on Debian, for what it's worth. However, I don't use the Debian package (and wouldn't - it's pure Python so I would always use pip rather than apt). Cheers, Tony On Thursday, 2 July 2015, Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> wrote:
(apologies for the top post...)
Thanks for the note, Hugo. I've cc'd spambayes-dev to my reply. Others there (assuming there still are others) might have some suggestions.
SpamBayes has been dormant for quite some time, as you observed. I'm not sure what you mean by "dead" though. I'm not sure what's to be done about that. There are a few people who try to answer questions about it on the main list (spambayes@python.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','spambayes@python.org');>), but most of those questions come from users of the Windows version.
I no longer use it myself anymore, except on the mail.python.org site. That instance hasn't been updated in quite awhile either.
I'm not sure what an official "declare the end of the Spambayes project" would mean. Do you want to take it over? Assuming you've been maintaining it for Debian (I had no idea any Linux distros included it), I don't think it would be a big deal to get you added as an official maintainer.
I'm not sure I've seen any bug reports, and like I said, I had no idea it was included in any Linux distributions. Do you have specific bugs to report?
Skip Montanaro
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:07 AM, <hugo6390@users.sf.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hugo6390@users.sf.net');>> wrote:
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Hi Skip,
I'm the Debian Maintainer of the spambayes package.
Today, I decided to contact you in order to clarify the situation of the spambayes project, which seems to be dead since 2007.
Spambayes is still maintained in the Debian Project, but its maintenance becomes harder and harder. Spambayes will even become unusable soon. That's bad, because a lot of persons are still using this software. I'm not able to fix spambayes alone, and I'll have to request its deletion if don't find a solution.
I want you to officially declare the end of the Spambayes project if it's the case. Otherwise, could you, please, help me to fix spambayes' bugs ?
Kind Regards, Hugo
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